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He yelled "stop or I'll blow your head off" as he was running away.
Source? It was on the video tape, that they taped from their phone. So, you have nothing?
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It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society. That’s not true in every state. Here in Louisiana you cannot legally hold anyone who wants to leave . The law here looks at it as if they want to leave , they are no longer a threat. You also cannot use deadly force to protect your property. Even firing warning shoots you are considered the aggressor. It’s screwed up , buts it’s the law here. At least that is what the CCW instructor told me two weeks ago when I took my refresher course .
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I didn't say it didn't happen. I just asked for a source. Thanks.
Makes no difference. If a cop under identical circumstances said it, would you have a problem with it? If no, you lose.
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It does. He was reasonably believed to be the burglar that had been plaguing the neighborhood. Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars, and citizens may be armed while doing so. If you are a burglar, you should expect to be confronted by armed citizens. Or at least that is the case in any sane society. Name the state in which the laws apply as you stated.... OK, Georgia (before they changed the law as a result of this case.) Two years ago, Georgia law allowed any citizen to stop at gunpoint any other citizen whom they might suspect was guilty of a crime at some date in the past??????? Felony? Misdemeanor? Vague suspicion? Sure and certain knowledge? Observation? None of that mattered? You have to witness the crime, see it in action....suspicion or guesses won't hold up in court. What was the first thing the guy said in the 911 call ?.... "operator" what do you have to report ?'......"Idiot" there's a black guy running through our neighborhood. Did any of you actually watch the trial and listen to recording and see the video ? lol That was one of my questions above that went unanswered. Of course it went unanswered, they're making up facts that are against the law as they post. 12 white jurors convicted 3 white men with a white judge, in a state where if you were a black guy you'd be running for your life too....I know I would be, chiit they'll string me up from the closest tree. There's video tape of him in the construction site house, and walking out with nothing...there was nothing stolen. Then they claimed somebody stole something out of a boat a few weeks earlier, so it had to be that black guy...let's get a posse together with our white hoods and chase that tree monkey down. Really???? If I'd have been him I would have stopped and said "what's up? What do you guys need?" unless of course I had something to hide. Jesus people are fuggggin stupid. And I don't care that he was black, he could have been white or asian. He had no business going for the shotgun, period. Let the po po come and sort things out. If those convicted had held him hostage then press charges on them. You don't try to grab a shotgun away from anyone trying to detain you, let the law handle it. Fugggin stupid fugggs abound. The issue here is that there is no common sense or fear of repercussions for ones actions (white or black trash). People suck and are stupid period.
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Fugggin stupid fugggs abound.
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he was a pos and his removal makes the neighborhood much safer, they should be given medals for crimestopping not jail time, just think of all the shyte he was gonna do in his criminal career, they put a stop to that... permanently .... ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1444/a0efaW.jpg)
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Keyboard commando and law experts out in full force today…..lol
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I didn't say it didn't happen. I just asked for a source. Thanks.
Makes no difference. If a cop under identical circumstances said it, would you have a problem with it? If no, you lose. You and legal threads. LOLOLOL.
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Get a grip, they weren’t protecting a darn thing. Shoot first, ask questions later. They are just plain and simple ignorant men. You have a right to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. That's not what happened. One of the men was armed with a shotgun, fully within his rights. The perp grabbed it, and in the struggle for control, the perp was shot. When the perp grabbed his shotgun, what was he supposed to do? Let him have it? If someone tried to kidnap me at gunpoint, I'd fight back too. Are you a burglar, with a rap sheet the length of your arm, pretending to be a jogger in work boots? Hadn't watched the trial or read any editorial on the case. Was he convicted of various crimes? WERE THEY you stupid fuggg, don't even bring your shiet here talking about something you know absolutely nothing about. How about you go crawl into a river and drown since you don't have the legs to walk, piece of shiet.
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The TRH school of self defense law is co-located w/ the nasty hamper medical clinic.
Stupid should hurt and those 3 dummies will soon be having their colons stretched. They make vigilantes look bad.
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Keyboard commando and law experts out in full force today…..lol Truth!
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Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars........ Bullsh*t. Might be the first time you and I agree on something!
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The TRH school of self defense law is co-located w/ the nasty hamper medical clinic.
Stupid should hurt and those 3 dummies will soon be having their colons stretched. They make vigilantes look bad.
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Unfortunately, we are going to see much, much more of this sort of incident happening... de-funding police, police unwilling to confront black people, prosecutors turning criminals loose to prey on the public... etc.
We are going to see more untrained people "enforcing the law"...
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Of course it went unanswered, they're making up facts that are against the law as they post.
12 white jurors convicted 3 white men with a white judge, in a state where if you were a black guy you'd be running for your life too....I know I would be, chiit they'll string me up from the closest tree.
There's video tape of him in the construction site house, and walking out with nothing...there was nothing stolen. Then they claimed somebody stole something out of a boat a few weeks earlier, so it had to be that black guy...let's get a posse together with our white hoods and chase that tree monkey down.
Really???? If I'd have been him I would have stopped and said "what's up? What do you guys need?" unless of course I had something to hide. Jesus people are fuggggin stupid. And I don't care that he was black, he could have been white or asian. He had no business going for the shotgun, period. Let the po po come and sort things out. If those convicted had held him hostage then press charges on them. You don't try to grab a shotgun away from anyone trying to detain you, let the law handle it. Fugggin stupid fugggs abound. The issue here is that there is no common sense or fear of repercussions for ones actions (white or black trash). People suck and are stupid period. And exactly how do YOU determine if several men with a shotgun and other weapons, shouting death threats at you are attempting to detain you? How do YOU determine they do not actually mean you kidnapping, grievous injury, or death. Should we just tell our kids to jump in the van whenever some pedophile stops and tells them to? Is there an actual difference?
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Citizens are permitted to detain for the police those reasonably believed to be burglars........ Bullsh*t. Might be the first time you and I agree on something! Nah. I now agree that the BHA leaders are ass-clowns.
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Unfortunately, we are going to see much, much more of this sort of incident happening... de-funding police, police unwilling to confront black people, prosecutors turning criminals loose to prey on the public... etc.
We are going to see more untrained people "enforcing the law"... People really need to read and understand their state's self-defense laws. Something else to consider. For those that like to put their keyboard bravado on display on social media, reading this article should give you pause. https://www.npr.org/2021/11/18/1056813652/travis-mcmichael-ahmaud-arbery-trial-latest-testimony Your social media history will be discovered, and if an issue can be made of your comments, it will.
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If Arbery had used deadly force in self-defense in that situation, he would have been completely justified.
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