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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Magnum_Bob] #16655240 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Originally Posted by antero
Thanks all - it's not that I don't plan on buying ammo when times are good and it's back on the shelf. I just think that in-store ammo availability is a major plus to any cartridge and am wondering if what I've seen in this shortage (308 on the shelves, almost no 6.5 CM) is going to be the way things are in future shortages.


Your going to have problems with whatever you have because your shortsighted and narrow minded. You still think you should be able to buy whatever you want, when you want, for what you want to pay. You don't see what your looking at very well either. Go back to the stores 80-90% of that 308 ammo is fmj ammo not hunting loads same with the 223 ammo. You don't want to be bothered with reloading either and can't see the need for a purchase of more than 2 boxes at a time. There is no advice or help for people like you except 1 thing, just stay at home and do what your wife tells you. Hey YOU asked. Happy t -day.

STFU.


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: skeen] #16655257 11/25/21
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He does the blowhard schtick now and then.


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: mathman] #16655269 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by mathman
He does the blowhard schtick now and then.

He blows Stick??

Whooda thunk it!🤣🤣🤣


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: antero] #16655311 11/25/21
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Well I do enjoy Stick telling you 2 guys where to get off and what he thinks of your cumulative knowledge. Stick doesn't give me hell like you guys because when he passes on his knowledge I listen. One of the know nothing blowhards on this forum is 10 gaugemag just don't listen to any advice he gives on the right magazine for your 760 or 7600 or anything else he says if you don't want it to cost you money. Mathman I usually listen to what you have to say because you are knowledgeable and informed but you need to watch who you side. Both of you I hope will still have a happy t day. Mb


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: antero] #16655374 11/25/21
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Switch if you want.....when the gun bug hits I don’t have ground to stand on as far as criticizing choice. I wouldn’t switch personally and would try to either find more 6.5 or run down reloading gear and go that route.


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: antero] #16655402 11/25/21
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I've thrown together a few switch barrel rifles for some guys around here, they seem pretty happy with the results, but I encourage them to use cartridges of the same family which simplifies the hell out of things, hence the cost is lower...a good deal if you are a young working man with a family.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Magnum_Bob] #16655405 11/25/21
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I wasn't siding with anyone, just noting that sometimes you seem to come on unnecessarily strong. I probably should have stayed quiet. Happy Thanksgiving to you too, let's shake on it and have a great holiday.


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
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Perhaps the OP is on to something...

I was in the local SW yesterday (the 24th) and they had for the first time 308 & 30-06 ammo out the gazoo. No .26 CM however.

And just in time for the season to close...

Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Magnum_Bob] #16655477 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Well I do enjoy Stick telling you 2 guys where to get off and what he thinks of your cumulative knowledge. Stick doesn't give me hell like you guys because when he passes on his knowledge I listen. One of the know nothing blowhards on this forum is 10 gaugemag just don't listen to any advice he gives on the right magazine for your 760 or 7600 or anything else he says if you don't want it to cost you money. Mathman I usually listen to what you have to say because you are knowledgeable and informed but you need to watch who you side. Both of you I hope will still have a happy t day. Mb

Watch who you side? Are the Sharks and the Jets gonna rumble after recess lol. Yeesh.

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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Well I do enjoy Stick telling you 2 guys where to get off and what he thinks of your cumulative knowledge. Stick doesn't give me hell like you guys because when he passes on his knowledge I listen. One of the know nothing blowhards on this forum is 10 gaugemag just don't listen to any advice he gives on the right magazine for your 760 or 7600 or anything else he says if you don't want it to cost you money. Mathman I usually listen to what you have to say because you are knowledgeable and informed but you need to watch who you side. Both of you I hope will still have a happy t day. Mb

Not sure where I cost anybody any $$ on a mag for a Remington pump but I am sure you're right.


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: antero] #16655758 11/25/21
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You CLUELESS Fhuqking Drooltards are a HOOT! Hint. LAUGHING!

Pardon the simplistic FACT,that bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. Nod your crossed-eyes,setting atop your pencil necks,like you "understand". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.

To START with,there's NEVER been a 308 Factory "offering",that'll keep pace with a 264 Kreedmire Factory Load. Read that again. Now one more time. Let it marinate. Hint.

In retrospect,I've only whistled 1000+ rounds of 308 through a bolt gun in a single day,mebbe only five fhuqking times. Such things help R&D stocks,bedding,mounting systems,optics integrity and felt recoil mitigation,fire control group sanctity,along with more than a few other constants,which bear fruit. Hell...I've only caught (1) HK-41's fore end on fire too. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!

I REALLY fhuqking HOPE,there's a Fhuqktard STUPID enough to down grade a 264 Kreedmire to 308,because that is Texas FUNNY! Hint.

The 308 will always recoil more,drop more,drift more and arrive the scene at lesser velocity,if only for fhuqking starters. Hint.

Schit Ammo doesn't "enhance" practice. Let alone the diminished abilities to derive trace/impact and contend drift. Hint.

Facts/Physics are handy,despite Fhuqking Retards being oblivious to said constants. Hint.

"Some" 308. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]


"Some" 264 Kreedmire(though admittedly,I'm rather GREAT with a Rifle). Hint.






THE M852 308. Though a Ruger American Kreed CRUSHES it. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

Bless your CLUELESS poor poor(literally) hearts.

Hint.

LAUGHING!....................


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Big Stick] #16655844 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
You CLUELESS Fhuqking Drooltards are a HOOT! Hint. LAUGHING!

Pardon the simplistic FACT,that bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. Nod your crossed-eyes,setting atop your pencil necks,like you "understand". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.

To START with,there's NEVER been a 308 Factory "offering",that'll keep pace with a 264 Kreedmire Factory Load. Read that again. Now one more time. Let it marinate. Hint.

In retrospect,I've only whistled 1000+ rounds of 308 through a bolt gun in a single day,mebbe only five fhuqking times. Such things help R&D stocks,bedding,mounting systems,optics integrity and felt recoil mitigation,fire control group sanctity,along with more than a few other constants,which bear fruit. Hell...I've only caught (1) HK-41's fore end on fire too. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!

I REALLY fhuqking HOPE,there's a Fhuqktard STUPID enough to down grade a 264 Kreedmire to 308,because that is Texas FUNNY! Hint.

The 308 will always recoil more,drop more,drift more and arrive the scene at lesser velocity,if only for fhuqking starters. Hint.

Schit Ammo doesn't "enhance" practice. Let alone the diminished abilities to derive trace/impact and contend drift. Hint.

Facts/Physics are handy,despite Fhuqking Retards being oblivious to said constants. Hint.

"Some" 308. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]


"Some" 264 Kreedmire(though admittedly,I'm rather GREAT with a Rifle). Hint.






THE M852 308. Though a Ruger American Kreed CRUSHES it. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

Bless your CLUELESS poor poor(literally) hearts.

Hint.

LAUGHING!....................


Which round has better ballistics at 2000 yards after soaking in the creek for 4 hours?

Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: skeen] #16655868 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by skeen
Originally Posted by antero

Is there any real downside to going to the 308?


No.

True 👍....Hb

Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Magnum_Bob] #16656029 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Originally Posted by antero
Thanks all - it's not that I don't plan on buying ammo when times are good and it's back on the shelf. I just think that in-store ammo availability is a major plus to any cartridge and am wondering if what I've seen in this shortage (308 on the shelves, almost no 6.5 CM) is going to be the way things are in future shortages.


Your going to have problems with whatever you have because your shortsighted and narrow minded. You still think you should be able to buy whatever you want, when you want, for what you want to pay. You don't see what your looking at very well either. Go back to the stores 80-90% of that 308 ammo is fmj ammo not hunting loads same with the 223 ammo. You don't want to be bothered with reloading either and can't see the need for a purchase of more than 2 boxes at a time. There is no advice or help for people like you except 1 thing, just stay at home and do what your wife tells you. Hey YOU asked. Happy t -day.



I see someone is militant in taking his @sshole pills.


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: Pappy348] #16656039 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Your premise is fundamentally flawed. You don’t need to switch, you need both.

Becoming a handloader will largely insulate you from the fluctuations in the market, once you manage to get what’s needed. What’s actually needed is pretty basic, and not terribly expensive over time. You’ll be able to practice more, always a good thing.

This^^^^


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by clockwork_7mm
Originally Posted by Big Stick
You CLUELESS Fhuqking Drooltards are a HOOT! Hint. LAUGHING!

Pardon the simplistic FACT,that bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. Nod your crossed-eyes,setting atop your pencil necks,like you "understand". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.

To START with,there's NEVER been a 308 Factory "offering",that'll keep pace with a 264 Kreedmire Factory Load. Read that again. Now one more time. Let it marinate. Hint.

In retrospect,I've only whistled 1000+ rounds of 308 through a bolt gun in a single day,mebbe only five fhuqking times. Such things help R&D stocks,bedding,mounting systems,optics integrity and felt recoil mitigation,fire control group sanctity,along with more than a few other constants,which bear fruit. Hell...I've only caught (1) HK-41's fore end on fire too. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!

I REALLY fhuqking HOPE,there's a Fhuqktard STUPID enough to down grade a 264 Kreedmire to 308,because that is Texas FUNNY! Hint.

The 308 will always recoil more,drop more,drift more and arrive the scene at lesser velocity,if only for fhuqking starters. Hint.

Schit Ammo doesn't "enhance" practice. Let alone the diminished abilities to derive trace/impact and contend drift. Hint.

Facts/Physics are handy,despite Fhuqking Retards being oblivious to said constants. Hint.

"Some" 308. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]


"Some" 264 Kreedmire(though admittedly,I'm rather GREAT with a Rifle). Hint.






THE M852 308. Though a Ruger American Kreed CRUSHES it. Hint.

[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]

Bless your CLUELESS poor poor(literally) hearts.

Hint.

LAUGHING!....................


Which round has better ballistics at 2000 yards after soaking in the creek for 4 hours?


Haha 😂😂


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Re: Might make the switch from 6.5 CM to 308 [Re: 10gaugemag] #16656051 11/25/21
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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by kenster99
Dump the CM and go 308. Creedmore over rated, marketing hype BS. My 6.5 SWEEDMORE will do everything the creedmore will do, and then some.

If it's marketing hype it sure has stuck around for quite a while, quite a while actually.

I have no need for one because I have something on either side of 6.5 that works but if I didn't have a 6mm or 7-08 the Creedmoor would for sure be on my very short list.

I have and use creedmoor, 7mm08, and swedemore. They all work well. The creedmoor's are markedly more accurate though. They were designed to be a target round with accuracy in mind and they don't disappoint...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.

Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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I have several of each, you can’t have too many. I’d go 30-06 if I had to make a switch.

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I was seeing some 6.5 CM when I wasn’t seeing .308 for a while. Then I didn’t see either. Recently I have seen some .308, 9L, 223 around. I think the manufacturers will pour most of the manufacturing capabilities into the most popular or demanded cartridges for awhile, or until things ‘normalize’. That said, 6.5 is very hot and popular right now. I expect you’ll see some pop up sooner than later. Certainly not worth selling a gun over. No flies on a .308 though, despite Stick’s adoration of the kreedmire. Buy another rifle if you like, for any reason you may like - all reasons are good. And .308 is good too. My only advice would be not to bail out on your current rifle, unless you are unhappy with it.

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Originally Posted by hanco
I have several of each, you can’t have too many. I’d go 30-06 if I had to make a switch.

This might be good advice too, even if you kept your 6.5 CM, but wanted to ad another rifle, potentially more suited to Elk. In the interest of diversity.

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