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clean used ,with honest handling....<<< whats that mean to you ?


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Means stocks gonna have use, dings dents, things as such, but not be abused. Guns been hunted, but cleaned and taken care of over the years.


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Not a safe queen, a gun thats seen some field time but taken care of. No huge dents or chips in the wood, no pits or rust marks in the metal.

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Another way to say it: you won't feel bad all day long if you bump into a fencepost or a rock and ding the stock.


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Thanks men !


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Originally Posted by atvalaska
clean used ,with honest handling....<<< whats that mean to you ?


Prolly been bloodied a few times too . . .



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Clean - as in used cars. I don’t know, “Does it smell minty?”

I like minty.

If a seller says it’s clean, he might just be a used car salesman.

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Look at the pictures closely and ask lots of questions.


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It means it has had some field use.

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It's a proven rifle, so it is worth more. That was the line a friend heard at a gun show when the used gun on the table had a higher price than a new one.


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It means I'm going to have to see it in hand, or at a minimum, a ton of pictures to determine what kind of shape it truly is in.

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This is what I got ...449.00 all said and done... .. got it to go with my pc9 carbine ...uses same mags https://www.gunbroker.com/item/915130711?a=1


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Look closely around the edges of the photos. Sometimes the seller will put a defect on the edge
A lot of times defects are shown at the end of a large number of photos.
Are the sights appropriate for the model?
Look closely at the trigger. Does the curve of trigger indicate it’s been changed?
Look at the muzzle. Are there any dings and/or a loss of a lot of blueing indicating it may have spent a lot of time muzzle down on a floor mat.

In the end, expect the worst and hope for the best.


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A lot like horse ads. Have to read between the lines. Good jumper potential = can’t keep him in a six foot fence. Needs experienced rider = can’t buck hard enough or long enough for the rodeo circuit but plenty long enough and hard enough for you. Good kids horse = mouth so hard even a kid can’t hurt it.

Like new in the box = looks good but shot so much it has six inches of free bore (throat erosion). Custom stock = Bubba got a hold of it and modified it with a hatchet. Vintage gun with patina= not a square inch of metal without rust.

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Originally Posted by mart
A lot like horse ads. Have to read between the lines. Good jumper potential = can’t keep him in a six foot fence. Needs experienced rider = can’t buck hard enough or long enough for the rodeo circuit but plenty long enough and hard enough for you. Good kids horse = mouth so hard even a kid can’t hurt it.


Reminds me of Twain’s Mexican Plug:

http://www.online-literature.com/twain/roughing-it/25/

When I see “Honest Wear”, I think “Beat to Hell”, but maybe mechanically okay, maybe not. Tread carefully.


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It means it looks like he dragged it to the stand behind a four wheeler, but it works right good!

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Originally Posted by Bugger
If a seller says it’s clean, he might just be a used car salesman.


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It can mean several things according to how honest the seller is.

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I also means the previous owner used it long enough to decide he didn't want it!

In other words, you'll see a few dents, dings and small scratches, but won't know anything else -good or bad - about it.


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Means i'd look elsewhere. Not interested in someone elses junk unless I'm looking for a project.


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