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Interesting...but I see no one is mentioning how one of your California locales is enforcing mandatory mask wearing in the citizens own home.
Look hard enough and there are issues everywhere, and plenty to point the finger.
What locale is enforcing that? There is a recent thread on it in the campfire, it didn't get much notice as most were too busy bitching about Australia instead of looking to their own back yard. Astraila is screwed but the us is headed there
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I had this discussion earlier tonight with a local liberal… the vaccines only (supposedly) work to help mitigate the “severe” effects of the virus…we all know, or should know, that’s not always the case… even if the vaccines work at mitigating severe symptoms, they do nothing to keep you from infecting others if you become infected…an argument can be made that mitigating the symptoms might actually be responsible for faster spread of the disease because the infected might not feel ill enough to get tested or quarantine themselves… the bottom line for me is that everybody alive will eventually catch the virus, because it’s here to stay…… get over it… I am now vaxed and would suggest that there is more likely-hood of milder symptoms allowing those who are vaxed to be out and about to pass the damned virus on. Those who are unvaxed have more to fear from the vaxed than the other way round. Yep you are vaxed, you can spread more prolific than ever before. You also have the ability for mutations of the civic virus to mutate and you to spread Everyone can host a mutating virus, it is what the virus does...and the enhanced spread is solely because fu ckwits think that because they are vaxed they don't have to give a toss about anyone else. The shots are solely an attempt to mitigate symptoms, it is not protection, not a magic bullet, and definitely not a licence to cease caring about the welfare of those around us...(unless it is someone you particularly despise). The shots do not make the recipient more apt to be contagious...stupidity does.
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Interesting...but I see no one is mentioning how one of your California locales is enforcing mandatory mask wearing in the citizens own home.
Look hard enough and there are issues everywhere, and plenty to point the finger.
California is not the rest of the USA Laughin' here................... So you think that what is happening in CA & Germany is not going to happen in the rest if the U.S., eh? Let's talk again in a few months...........................if we are still allowed. MM
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I had this discussion earlier tonight with a local liberal… the vaccines only (supposedly) work to help mitigate the “severe” effects of the virus…we all know, or should know, that’s not always the case… even if the vaccines work at mitigating severe symptoms, they do nothing to keep you from infecting others if you become infected…an argument can be made that mitigating the symptoms might actually be responsible for faster spread of the disease because the infected might not feel ill enough to get tested or quarantine themselves… the bottom line for me is that everybody alive will eventually catch the virus, because it’s here to stay…… get over it… I am now vaxed and would suggest that there is more likely-hood of milder symptoms allowing those who are vaxed to be out and about to pass the damned virus on. Those who are unvaxed have more to fear from the vaxed than the other way round. Tell that to the Stazi and Einsatzgruppen.
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I had this discussion earlier tonight with a local liberal… the vaccines only (supposedly) work to help mitigate the “severe” effects of the virus…we all know, or should know, that’s not always the case… even if the vaccines work at mitigating severe symptoms, they do nothing to keep you from infecting others if you become infected…an argument can be made that mitigating the symptoms might actually be responsible for faster spread of the disease because the infected might not feel ill enough to get tested or quarantine themselves… the bottom line for me is that everybody alive will eventually catch the virus, because it’s here to stay…… get over it… I am now vaxed and would suggest that there is more likely-hood of milder symptoms allowing those who are vaxed to be out and about to pass the damned virus on. Those who are unvaxed have more to fear from the vaxed than the other way round. Tell that to the Stazi and Einsatzgruppen. Fortunately I do not have to...we don't have any.
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I had this discussion earlier tonight with a local liberal… the vaccines only (supposedly) work to help mitigate the “severe” effects of the virus…we all know, or should know, that’s not always the case… even if the vaccines work at mitigating severe symptoms, they do nothing to keep you from infecting others if you become infected…an argument can be made that mitigating the symptoms might actually be responsible for faster spread of the disease because the infected might not feel ill enough to get tested or quarantine themselves… the bottom line for me is that everybody alive will eventually catch the virus, because it’s here to stay…… get over it… I am now vaxed and would suggest that there is more likely-hood of milder symptoms allowing those who are vaxed to be out and about to pass the damned virus on. Those who are unvaxed have more to fear from the vaxed than the other way round. Yep you are vaxed, you can spread more prolific than ever before. You also have the ability for mutations of the civic virus to mutate and you to spread Everyone can host a mutating virus, it is what the virus does...and the enhanced spread is solely because fu ckwits think that because they are vaxed they don't have to give a toss about anyone else. The shots are solely an attempt to mitigate symptoms, it is not protection, not a magic bullet, and definitely not a licence to cease caring about the welfare of those around us...(unless it is someone you particularly despise). The shots do not make the recipient more apt to be contagious...stupidity does. funny I was in the area in China when this chit broke out, then in Italy in milan when it broke put down
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Laughin' here...................
So you think that what is happening in CA & Germany is not going to happen in the rest if the U.S., eh?
Let's talk again in a few months...........................if we are still allowed.
MM
Actually MM...I am wondering what the next emergency is going to be and what new powers are going to be "needed" to deal with it.
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Interesting...but I see no one is mentioning how one of your California locales is enforcing mandatory mask wearing in the citizens own home.
Look hard enough and there are issues everywhere, and plenty to point the finger.
California is not the rest of the USA Laughin' here................... So you think that what is happening in CA & Germany is not going to happen in the rest if the U.S., eh? Let's talk again in a few months...........................if we are still allowed. MM Nope. 🙂 I’ll check back 03/01/22. We’ll still be free.
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Hardest part of 2 weeks to flatten the curve is the first 2 years.
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Hardest part of 2 weeks to flatten the curve is the first 2 years. Ha ha. Maybe they meant a biblical "2 weeks"?
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Nope. 🙂 I’ll check back 03/01/22. We’ll still be free.
Pretty sure your president wiping human rights with work mandates to 1/3 of your population is not the understanding of freedom your forefathers envisaged. As to such attacks on freedoms, you are protesting even less than tiny countries like the Netherlands. Not really much of a showing from you boys yet. I hear a lot of you fellas using the excuse, well it aint happening in my state. Remind me what the U in USA stands for again?
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The problem with Americans is that since WW1 they've been indoctrinated to believe that the "USA" are the good guys, they will never rise or revolt against their rising Police Sate .... The fantasy of "good guys" has them thinking that some hero Republican "Conservatives" will magically materialize and save the Union once again ....,, not gonna happen this time around .... Republican/Democrat is a public facade, / they ALL go to the same Satanic Temple and serve one master... what little freedoms we Americans have left ... are only allowed to keep us pacified and controlled even Estonians have the stones to rise up .... here in the states we all would be arrested and locked up for "Domestic Terrorism" all the checks have been out into place since Bush/Clinton/Bush and got worse with Obama, now the entire country is a concentration camp waiting to be activated ... ....
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The problem with Americans is that since WW1 they've been indoctrinated to believe that the "USA" are the good guys, they will never rise or revolt against their rising Police Sate .... The fantasy of "good guys" has them thinking that some hero Republican "Conservatives" will magically materialize and save the Union once again ....,, not gonna happen this time around .... Republican/Democrat is a public facade, / they ALL go to the same Satanic Temple and serve one master... what little freedoms we Americans have left ... are only allowed to keep us pacified and controlled even Estonians have the stones to rise up .... here in the states we all would be arrested and locked up for "Domestic Terrorism" all the checks have been out into place since Bush/Clinton/Bush and got worse with Obama, now the entire country is a concentration camp waiting to be activated ... .... You are 100% correct swamplord.
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Exiting Chancellor Angela Merkel announced on Dec. 2 that Germany will lock down unvaccinated people as top officials also signaled that they would back plans for mandatory vaccinations in the coming months.
Merkel said individuals who aren’t vaccinated for COVID-19 will be excluded from nonessential stores and cultural and recreational venues. The Bundestag, Germany’s Parliament, also will consider a general vaccination mandate.
"Achtung untermenschen..." - history repeats itself in Germany I was watching a clip from a Jordan Peterson lecture last night. He mentioned how the Nazis made health an issue of division early on in the rise to power. At first they directed the plan toward exterminating pests and rodents to rid the country of disease. That was the set up for later redirecting that hatred toward people. It can certainly happen in Germany again and something is happening here.
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Does anyone know what other countries like Russia are doing about it?
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Interesting...but I see no one is mentioning how one of your California locales is enforcing mandatory mask wearing in the citizens own home.
Look hard enough and there are issues everywhere, and plenty to point the finger.
To be fair Cali really isn't part of the USA.......
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LOL! Germany is over 80% vaxxed. If vaxxes did anything, they'd have hit herd immunity long ago!
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LOL! Germany is over 80% vaxxed. If vaxxes did anything, they'd have hit herd immunity long ago! You would think so but you hear NO talk of Herd Immunity it's all Vaccines & Boosters.
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Read just this morning that a major healthcare provider fired 280 employees for not being vaccinated or having an exemption.
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