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And the prosecution will twist that into you are a trained killer with the intent to kill.

this idea that rioters cannot be shot for burning and looting is certainly a media narrative.

This "riots are the voice of the unheard" horseshit is justification in their eyes to become anarchists

They may try, but it's pretty easily defensible.

OF COURSE rioters can be shot... just do it quietly and from a few hundred yards.

This ain't rocket science fellas.

I see the U.S. Law Shield policy no different than car insurance or home owners insurance. I have both and hope I never have to use it. I think it is only a responsible thing to consider if you carry. IF you were involved in a shooting, you stand to loose everything you and your wife have ever worked for, much like being involved in a auto wreck without insurance.

Get a Lane...

Tell that to the McMichael's.

I've read stories of Israelis shooting calves and knees of rioters to take them out. They consider that humane. That would just get lawyers rich here

Their actions, when examined in the light of GA law, is what spelled doom for them. When their actions rose to the level of felony false imprisonment, under GA law, they forfeited their right to self defense. That's another part of the reason I implore people to read their self defense laws.

Hopefully you never have to use deadly force either. You have started thread topics on a right wing site discussing it in detail. That will definitely be used against you.

The prospect of a civil trial in our (liberal) state scares me almost worse than having to use a gun in self-defense.
Our juries tend to be lead by emotion and not facts.

I'm familiar with the tactic, but from a better source closer to the issue, they are Mossad, and clandestinely gut shoot the dangerous ones with suppressed .22lr.

That gets the others to thinking they may not want a dose of that...

Absolute #1 rule in Texas if you have to shoot some one. Tell 911 nothing more than there has been a shooting at XXXX address then hang up. #2 Call your lawyer. The YouTube video Cashisking posted is required watching by all gun owners.

Most, if not all of here are, "White Supremacists". by the daffyinasion of the left.

As I said, you pull the trigger, you cannot depend on the law for defense any longer. If the events of the McMichael's shooting had occurred 20 years ago, it would never have seen the light of day in court and it is not because we are a now a more enlightened society either. Activist DA's, AG's, and judges changed all that. Whites with a gun are now the terrorists and criminals.

If I were the one calling the shots, I would invest heavily in getting the National Guard up to speed on riot control, and take the decision to use them out of the hands of governors and into the hands of police chiefs (with some caveats)

I learned after I turned 18 that its generally better to walk away from a conflict than engage in it. It's never worth the risk and subsequent legal problems so if you can avoid a fight its usually better to do so. Unfortunately there are some things that must be dealt with to keep innocent people from being hurt. The legal system is letting a lot of violent and dangerous people out. People are finding themselves in more frequent situations where they have to defend themselves.

A few years back I got my elk with a bow right at the first of the season so after that day I went several more days just to call and help a friend get his. I carried my 45-70 guide gun loaded with 350g Hornady flat nose bullets loaded to about 2100 fps because there were lots of grizzlies where we were hunting. I talked with a state game warden one day while out and he asked what the gun was for. I said bear defense and he recommended I leave it home and carry bear spray instead. He said if you shoot a griz even in obvious self defense the feds are going to fly in in helicopters, make a huge event out of it and ruin your life and bankrupt you in court because grizzlies are federally protected. This was during the Obama regime about 2014.

It seems like today criminals are federally protected like grizzlies are. Even if you have to defend yourself to obviously save your life or another the feds are coming and they're going to do all they can to ruin you. Especially if it was your bad luck to have to defend yourself against a highly protected class.

I don't really bow hunt much in high grizzly areas and I don't shop in downtown Portland anymore. Not so much from fear of not being able to protect myself but more from fear of what would happen to me if I did protect myself.

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You do not appear to understand GA self defense law.

This seems crystal clear to me.

(b) A person is not justified in using force under the circumstances specified in subsection (a) of this Code section if he:

(2) Is attempting to commit, committing, or fleeing after the commission or attempted commission of a felony;

The McMichaels were committing the felony act of false imprisonment when they used deadly force. The law clearly establishes that they cannot do that. Is that not clear to you under the language of the law?

You cannot depend upon the law protecting you when you operate outside of the constraints of the law.

And you have bought into the BS narrative the prosecution presented. Attempting a Citizens Arrest is not false imprisonment. Arbery had two choices: 1. Comply and wait for the police or 2. Attack those who were attempting a citizens arrest. He choose poorly.

And as I said, 20 years ago this wouldn't have made the news. There are thousands of similar cases that never were prosecuted. We live in different times.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for Arbery - https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/...facts-the-jury-will-probably-never-hear/

If nothing else, you help make my point that after you pull the trigger, the "reasonable" standard no longer belongs to you.