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Last elk I shot, which was a couple years ago, was at 433yds with a 180 Scenar out of a short actioned 7SAUM started at 2940fps. Exit was golfball through upper shoulder (steep uphill shot) and animal took half a step. Headed out soon with it again. Good to hear - that's the exact combo I'm putting together for the same application. That load will do fine based on what we've seen. Hard to catch a 180 Scenar.
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Last elk I shot, which was a couple years ago, was at 433yds with a 180 Scenar out of a short actioned 7SAUM started at 2940fps. Exit was golfball through upper shoulder (steep uphill shot) and animal took half a step. Headed out soon with it again. What powder? My 180 loads were way slower than that with R22. I might could have pushed it harder though. 24” barrel. Thanks
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From what I've been hearing, those velocities are obtainable with RE26 and similar powders...
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RL 26 does outstanding in my 30-06 with 180 partitions (2900) and 7 mag 160 partitions (3200)
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Man you guys are causing me to want to build a long action 8 twist 26 inch barreled 7x57mm, 180 Horns at 2800 would be pretty cool from the old Warhorse, i like taking the little engines that could and see what they can do, my 6.5x55 Swede with 147 Horns at 2950 is a middleweight that punches like a light heavyweight, just shot a skunk with the damn thing at 502 yards Sat. morning! That would be pretty cool Gunner. That’d have some reach.
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gents,
I am building a 280AI for elk out to 500 yards. I'd like a recommendation on projectiles that perform well, have high BC/SD etc at that range.
please advise.
left to my own..... I'd use the Nosler ABLR in 175 gr, but I'm open to better recommendations from a more experienced crowd.
thank you, last weeks meat run with the 280 AI & Badlands Super Bulldozer 2 bullets BADLANDS BULLETS....
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Man you guys are causing me to want to build a long action 8 twist 26 inch barreled 7x57mm, 180 Horns at 2800 would be pretty cool from the old Warhorse, i like taking the little engines that could and see what they can do, my 6.5x55 Swede with 147 Horns at 2950 is a middleweight that punches like a light heavyweight, just shot a skunk with the damn thing at 502 yards Sat. morning! That would be pretty cool Gunner. That’d have some reach. May be a fun deal Big B, my 24" barreled 7x57 spits 175 partitions and grand slams out at 2700 fps in old RP brass, with 2-3 more inches of barrel and RWS brass, 2800 with 180's seated long is a real possibility.
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I've got a box of old timey Barnes 195's, must date back before men was wearing ear rings.
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I've actually shot some of those old Barnes 195's Flint! Back in mid-80s, I tried them in a 24" BDL 7mm Rem Mag and the powders I had at the time (IMR 4350 and later H870) still gave me keyholes, ha. But I had to try them!
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Man you guys are causing me to want to build a long action 8 twist 26 inch barreled 7x57mm, 180 Horns at 2800 would be pretty cool from the old Warhorse, i like taking the little engines that could and see what they can do, my 6.5x55 Swede with 147 Horns at 2950 is a middleweight that punches like a light heavyweight, just shot a skunk with the damn thing at 502 yards Sat. morning! What is your 6.5x55 load? I've got a stainless fluted tikka in the swede. I started working up a load for the 147 for it a few years ago but never got it quite shooting like I wanted. I was running RL26 and took it up to about 2900fps but groups were just over moa. I need to get back out and try it again. I only shot a few different loads. I've recently taken the 180 to over 2500fps from an 18.5" 7-08. I had it shooting some great groups but the light fieldcraft keeps toasting scopes. Bb
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Man you guys are causing me to want to build a long action 8 twist 26 inch barreled 7x57mm, 180 Horns at 2800 would be pretty cool from the old Warhorse, i like taking the little engines that could and see what they can do, my 6.5x55 Swede with 147 Horns at 2950 is a middleweight that punches like a light heavyweight, just shot a skunk with the damn thing at 502 yards Sat. morning! What is your 6.5x55 load? I've got a stainless fluted tikka in the swede. I started working up a load for the 147 for it a few years ago but never got it quite shooting like I wanted. I was running RL26 and took it up to about 2900fps but groups were just over moa. I need to get back out and try it again. I only shot a few different loads. I've recently taken the 180 to over 2500fps from an 18.5" 7-08. I had it shooting some great groups but the light fieldcraft keeps toasting scopes. Bb BB, Laupa brass 147 eldm H-1000, you can start at 48gr if you wish BR2 COL 3.120" 0.015" off, [long action m-70] Vel 2951 fps I use a drop tube, it's a small pita but worth it to get to shoot with the 6.5 Creed, 6.5-284 and 6.5 PRC boys, the only one that can outrun me is the PRC, but that guy cant shoot very well so i'm all good.
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I have a 7x7AI that seems to like 160-162's. I have not had a lot of time to get a load down to the nitty-gritty yet cause deer season is interfering with load work-up.
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For accuracy, I’ve had really had really good luck in a couple of 7 mags with the Nosler 168 long range Accubond. I haven’t used it on game yet.
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For accuracy, I’ve had really had really good luck in a couple of 7 mags with the Nosler 168 long range Accubond. I haven’t used it on game yet. I found a good load with that bullet in my christensen Ridgeline 280 ai. I'm running it over h1000 for 2880 fps. However, I had to move the scope back further in the rings because of the lame m16 style extractor was bouncing brass off my windage turret and back into the action. I don't know how just moving the scope did it but what was a 1/2 moa load is now 1 moa. I'll have to get it back out and adjust the chatge and seating and see of I can bring it back in. I also change brass lots but the first group before the scope move was good but limited to the 1 group. Bb
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In a 280ai I run a 175gn ELD-X at 2840 ft/s.
Terminal performance, according to Hornaday, puts the bullets performance window between ~200-700+ yards in this application.
Does anyone run this bullet and can speak to its terminal performance?
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[ Phil, RL26 actually gets me a little higher but I throttled back a bit to 2900. 24" barrel.
A guy could get right there with H1000 but that was about max for it. It ran better at 2850 fps in my rifle with H1000. Thanks. Now if I can just find some of those 180s......... If I just had some ham, I could make a ham sandwich, if I just had some bread......... I got plenty of bullets, brass, and primers but POWDER... oy. I don’t have a ton of room to store it so I usually kept 2-3 lbs each of what I use on hand. That was fine for the first year of this latest shortage...... I like the 180 ELD in my heavy 7 WSM and 162’s in my Kimber. The 180 generates too much recoil in the Kimber. The ELD’s are wicked at long range; probably not ideal for punching shoulders at close range but that wasn’t the question.
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This exactly. 7mm x 180 VLD is as good as it gets.
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The 180 VLD’s have been superb for me in several 7 mags and (3) 28 Noslers.
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The 180 VLD’s have been superb for me in several 7 mags and (3) 28 Noslers. My Brux barreled MkV 7RM 8 twist really likes’em. DF
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