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Re: 6.5 Swede CRS #16706702 12/09/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by CRS I love my 6.5x55 in Husqvarna action with an unknown 1:9 twist. Worked very well with 129 Hornady. I think after having married in to a Norwegian family with some Swedish mixed in, It should be called the 6.5x55 Scandihoovian, BTW, I am of German, French and English descent but am 100% American. Wow! Now that’s a buck! Awesome CRS Semper Fi

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Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16706713 12/09/21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,923 Black Hills of Dakota CRS Campfire Tracker
CRS Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,923 Black Hills of Dakota	Last year's buck. The right buck never showed when I was carrying the 6.5 this year. Arcus Venator

Re: 6.5 Swede Dirtfarmer #16707032 12/09/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,617 A Quieter Place S shootem Campfire Outfitter
shootem Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,617 A Quieter Place	Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Originally Posted by johnw Originally Posted by Mule Deer A few comments on this overall thread, The 6.5x55 is NOT "the Swedish Mauser" cartridge--or worse yet, "the Swede." It was co-developed by the Norwegian and Swedish militaries, when they belonged to the same "combined kingdom." (That said, by a Norwegian, it is also not the 6.5x55 Norwegian Krag.) When Remington screwed up and introduced the .244 with a 1-12 twist, they did NOT "correct" it by reintroducing the cartridge as the 6mm with a 1-10 twist. Instead they used a 1-9 twist--and at the same time started making their .243 Winchesters with a 1-9 twist, so they didn't have to produce barrels with two different twists. The standard .270 Winchester 1-10 twist will handily stabilize spitzers in the 170-grain range at elevations 4000 feet above sea level--and probably somewhat lower. I know this because I've done it. C'mon MD... Really??? Gonna insist next that the Swedish Bikini Team isn't Swedish? Now, now.... Beretzs, in a masterful stoke of international diplomacy, has just solved this thorny issue. The previously mislabeled "Swede" in now to be called the 6.5 SCAN.... He could well get the Nobel Peace Prize for this stroke of diplomatic genius.... DF Too late, it’s already been done. That’s the label Hornady has been using on their 6.5x55 die boxes for quite a while now. 6.5x55 SCAN. “When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty” Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16707051 12/09/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,617 A Quieter Place S shootem Campfire Outfitter
shootem Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,617 A Quieter Place	Hey Mule Deer, should the 6.5x55 bear any geographic qualifier at all? Seems the bullet, brass and die makers have chosen their individual favorite nomenclature based on propaganda. “When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty” Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16707209 12/09/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger
saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	I don't have access to the ammo or my manuals at present, but I seem to remember that the 6.5 Swede case head was a different diameter than most brass based on a -30-06 case.. I think it was smaller as I could not make 6.5 brass from a 30-06 case. It has been a long time ago so it might have been the opposite. However, my question is: are new rifles chambered for the 6.5 x 57 the same case head as the 30-06 head diameter or are they the same as the original 6.5 Swede ? I can check both diameters tomorrow. I have some Norma 6.5 brass that I bought back in the 80's when I first got the rifle. I will also check the nomenclature on the Norma box and the case head. Last edited by saddlesore; 12/09/21. If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

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Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16707288 12/09/21
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,468 S smithrjd Campfire Tracker
smithrjd Campfire Tracker S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 5,468	The 6.5X57 is the same .473 as the 30-06. The 6.5X55 as originally setup is .480. European brass will be the .480 rim, American and some others will be .473 rim diameter.

Re: 6.5 Swede smithrjd #16707296 12/09/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger
saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted by smithrjd The 6.5X57 is the same .473 as the 30-06. The 6.5X55 as originally setup is .480. European brass will be the .480 rim, American and some others will be .473 rim diameter. Thanks If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16707384 12/09/21
Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,714 Ontario, Canada S Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter
Steve Redgwell Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,714 Ontario, Canada	I wanna see some flick knives and more attitude! Lars, my rifle, does not like to be called a 6.5x55mm. He abhors the other names - 6.5x55mm SE or SKAN. He prefers to be known as 6.5 Lars, the Impaler. His cousin in Germany likes to be called a 6.5x55 UNIMOG. I got a red deer with one. This one was built in 1948 and is now surplus. Despite its age, the Unimog is very potent 6.5. Oh wait. I was wrong. It is a 7.7 (303). . Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.com Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada

Re: 6.5 Swede smithrjd #16707427 12/10/21
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,743 Southern Oregon USA S Seafire Campfire 'Bwana
Seafire Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 42,743 Southern Oregon USA	Originally Posted by smithrjd The 6.5X57 is the same .473 as the 30-06. The 6.5X55 as originally setup is .480. European brass will be the .480 rim, American and some others will be .473 rim diameter. Mr Smith Beat me to it... I shot both rounds... I neck down and trim 06 Nickle cases to make 6.5 x 57 brass.... I have a 6.5 x 55 on a Win 70 Featherweight, with a Pac Nor barrel.... the action is a Win push feed... Winchester brass in the 6.5 x 55 is the European specs, and case head. Remington 6.5 x 55 brass has a .473 case head.. so in that rifle, I always use Remington Brass.... Winchester brass doesn't always eject correctly. "Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC “Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Re: 6.5 Swede shootem #16707800 12/10/21
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by shootem Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer Originally Posted by johnw Originally Posted by Mule Deer A few comments on this overall thread, The 6.5x55 is NOT "the Swedish Mauser" cartridge--or worse yet, "the Swede." It was co-developed by the Norwegian and Swedish militaries, when they belonged to the same "combined kingdom." (That said, by a Norwegian, it is also not the 6.5x55 Norwegian Krag.) When Remington screwed up and introduced the .244 with a 1-12 twist, they did NOT "correct" it by reintroducing the cartridge as the 6mm with a 1-10 twist. Instead they used a 1-9 twist--and at the same time started making their .243 Winchesters with a 1-9 twist, so they didn't have to produce barrels with two different twists. The standard .270 Winchester 1-10 twist will handily stabilize spitzers in the 170-grain range at elevations 4000 feet above sea level--and probably somewhat lower. I know this because I've done it. C'mon MD... Really??? Gonna insist next that the Swedish Bikini Team isn't Swedish? Now, now.... Beretzs, in a masterful stoke of international diplomacy, has just solved this thorny issue. The previously mislabeled "Swede" in now to be called the 6.5 SCAN.... He could well get the Nobel Peace Prize for this stroke of diplomatic genius.... DF Too late, it’s already been done. That’s the label Hornady has been using on their 6.5x55 die boxes for quite a while now. 6.5x55 SCAN. Aww…. And I was about to nominate him for the Nobel. DF

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Re: 6.5 Swede johnw #16707954 12/10/21
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 15,593 Turkey River Iowa johnw Campfire Ranger
johnw Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2002 Posts: 15,593 Turkey River Iowa	Originally Posted by johnw Originally Posted by Mule Deer A few comments on this overall thread, The 6.5x55 is NOT "the Swedish Mauser" cartridge--or worse yet, "the Swede." It was co-developed by the Norwegian and Swedish militaries, when they belonged to the same "combined kingdom." (That said, by a Norwegian, it is also not the 6.5x55 Norwegian Krag.) When Remington screwed up and introduced the .244 with a 1-12 twist, they did NOT "correct" it by reintroducing the cartridge as the 6mm with a 1-10 twist. Instead they used a 1-9 twist--and at the same time started making their .243 Winchesters with a 1-9 twist, so they didn't have to produce barrels with two different twists. The standard .270 Winchester 1-10 twist will handily stabilize spitzers in the 170-grain range at elevations 4000 feet above sea level--and probably somewhat lower. I know this because I've done it. C'mon MD... Really??? Gonna insist next that the Swedish Bikini Team isn't Swedish? "Chances Will Be Taken"

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16708107 12/10/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,228 Wet Side, WA P Puddle Campfire Regular
Puddle Campfire Regular P Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,228 Wet Side, WA	A fun article by Philip Massaro about what your favorite rifle cartridge says about you. Be forewarned - he may have inadvertently mentioned "Swede" in there so have your blood pressure medicine nearby .... What Your Favorite Rifle Cartridge Says About You It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.

Re: 6.5 Swede Puddle #16708143 12/10/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by Puddle A fun article by Philip Massaro about what your favorite rifle cartridge says about you. Be forewarned - he may have inadvertently mentioned "Swede" in there so have your blood pressure medicine nearby .... What Your Favorite Rifle Cartridge Says About You Holy crap. Those were pretty damned funny! Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Swede Puddle #16708148 12/10/21
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by Puddle A fun article by Philip Massaro about what your favorite rifle cartridge says about you. Be forewarned - he may have inadvertently mentioned "Swede" in there so have your blood pressure medicine nearby .... What Your Favorite Rifle Cartridge Says About You Fun article, But, what if you have them all, your fav being the one you're holding at the moment....? DF

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16708364 12/10/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger
saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Here are some photos of ammo boxes of Norma commercial ammo and unprimed brass, etc., purchased in the mid 80's. Notice it is marked 6.5 Norma The commercial ammo head stamp is Norma Re and the unprimed brass has only Norma, both 6.5x55. The rim diameter is .477 measured on a 4 place micrometer This is some of the original military ammo which I assume is a 175 gr bullet. Rim diameter on these are .477 Here is my $69, 6.5 Swede. Original barrel, cut and recrowned at the 1st step. Richards stock. Turned down and reshaped bolt, Buheler Safety, Timmney trigger, and cocking conversion, 6X fixed Leupold scope.It shoots the Sierra GK 140 gr with 46 gr of H4831 very well, but does even better with the Nosler 129 gr AB and 47gr of H4831 Last edited by saddlesore; 12/10/21. If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

Re: 6.5 Swede 79S #16708378 12/10/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA B beretzs Campfire Ranger
beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,297 Northeast USA	Cool pictures Saddlesore. Semper Fi

Re: 6.5 Swede Puddle #16708406 12/10/21
Joined: Sep 2020 Posts: 759 Arizona O Old__School Campfire Regular
Old__School Campfire Regular O Joined: Sep 2020 Posts: 759 Arizona	Originally Posted by Puddle A fun article by Philip Massaro about what your favorite rifle cartridge says about you. Be forewarned - he may have inadvertently mentioned "Swede" in there so have your blood pressure medicine nearby .... What Your Favorite Rifle Cartridge Says About You And what would the author have to say about the 6.5 CM? I guess the article implies that in 2015 there weren't the numbers of 6.5 CM as there are now.

Re: 6.5 Swede Old__School #16708456 12/10/21
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,080 Central Louisiana	Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool Originally Posted by Puddle A fun article by Philip Massaro about what your favorite rifle cartridge says about you. Be forewarned - he may have inadvertently mentioned "Swede" in there so have your blood pressure medicine nearby .... What Your Favorite Rifle Cartridge Says About You And what would the author have to say about the 6.5 CM? I guess the article implies that in 2015 there weren't the numbers of 6.5 CM as there are now. May not be too bad. After all, he didn't mention "gay" when describing the typical .270 owner or the round. I guess he isn't a Fire contributor, or he'd have known better..... DF

Re: 6.5 Swede saddlesore #16708573 12/10/21
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,081 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,081 Annapolis, Md.	Originally Posted by saddlesore This is some of the original military ammo which I assume is a 175 gr bullet. Rim diameter on these are .477 Not military, just older cupro-nickel (or even possibly mild steel- check with a magnet) jacketed soft point hunting ammo. Undoubtedly 156 or 160 grain bullets. The original military load was invariably a long 156 grain RN FMJ bullet shaped such as these. Sweden downsized their FMJ military bullet to a 139 grain spitzer sometime soon before WWII, dunno what Norway did in that regard. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: 6.5 Swede gnoahhh #16708611 12/10/21
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger
saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,070 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted by gnoahhh Originally Posted by saddlesore This is some of the original military ammo which I assume is a 175 gr bullet. Rim diameter on these are .477 Not military, just older cupro-nickel (or even possibly mild steel- check with a magnet) jacketed soft point hunting ammo. Undoubtedly 156 or 160 grain bullets. The original military load was invariably a long 156 grain RN FMJ bullet shaped such as these. Sweden downsized their FMJ military bullet to a 139 grain spitzer sometime soon before WWII, dunno what Norway did in that regard. Figured it was military as there is no cartridge designation like 6.5 x 55.I have 6-8 of these.Not magnetic ( checked) None have Mfgr stamped, just some numbers and letters Too tarnished to get a good photo If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

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