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Below are some readily available internet loads from reliable sources for the 7-08:

140 gr bullets, 24" barrel
Hodgdon data - StaBall 6.5 - 2976 fps
Alliant data - RL-16 - 2952 fps
Barnes data - RL-17 - 2911 fps
Barnes data - A-2700 - 2939 fps
Barnes data - Big Game - 2910 fps
Barnes data - 2000MR - 2933 fps
Hornady data - 2000MR - 2918 fps
Hornady data - W760 - 2917 fps
Hornady data is with a 139 gr bullet, and a 22" barrel

It's a great round, that doesn't have to be hot rodded to reach out as far as most hunters would want to shoot. Wife or I (sometimes both of us) have shot one for the past 15 years. The 139 gr LRX will be the bullet of choice for my next elk hunt.


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Originally Posted by bludog
Below are some readily available internet loads from reliable sources for the 7-08:

140 gr bullets, 24" barrel
Hodgdon data - StaBall 6.5 - 2976 fps
Alliant data - RL-16 - 2952 fps
Barnes data - RL-17 - 2911 fps
Barnes data - A-2700 - 2939 fps
Barnes data - Big Game - 2910 fps
Barnes data - 2000MR - 2933 fps
Hornady data - 2000MR - 2918 fps
Hornady data - W760 - 2917 fps
Hornady data is with a 139 gr bullet, and a 22" barrel

It's a great round, that doesn't have to be hot rodded to reach out as far as most hunters would want to shoot. Wife or I (sometimes both of us) have shot one for the past 15 years. The 139 gr LRX will be the bullet of choice for my next elk hunt.



I don’t believe these velocity claims.


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That would be a decent elk cartridge in my opinion. But I personally woud not shoot at elk with it at 500 yards.


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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by bludog
Below are some readily available internet loads from reliable sources for the 7-08:

140 gr bullets, 24" barrel
Hodgdon data - StaBall 6.5 - 2976 fps
Alliant data - RL-16 - 2952 fps
Barnes data - RL-17 - 2911 fps
Barnes data - A-2700 - 2939 fps
Barnes data - Big Game - 2910 fps
Barnes data - 2000MR - 2933 fps
Hornady data - 2000MR - 2918 fps
Hornady data - W760 - 2917 fps
Hornady data is with a 139 gr bullet, and a 22" barrel

It's a great round, that doesn't have to be hot rodded to reach out as far as most hunters would want to shoot. Wife or I (sometimes both of us) have shot one for the past 15 years. The 139 gr LRX will be the bullet of choice for my next elk hunt.



I don’t believe these velocity claims.


Pharm, I sure ain't trying to start a pissing match and I know you have lots of experience with the 7-08 and Big Game, and I appreciate your sharing your experience with all of us on the Fire. These numbers came from businesses that made either the powder or the bullet, tested it and published the data. I'm just reporting it. I for one have verified that 2000MR, W760, A2700, and RL-17 can all exceed 2900 fps in a 24" barrel without going over the manufacturer's max powder charge. Barnes Big Game load with a 140 gr TSX/TTSX is 49.1 gr of powder. Don't you reckon that'll get you to 2910 fps? Good hunting brother.


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Wonder if the 150 ABLR would have better ballistics at 500 than the 140 Accubond, even though MV would be 100 fps slower (or more).


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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Wonder if the 150 ABLR would have better ballistics at 500 than the 140 Accubond, even though MV would be 100 fps slower (or more).

Short answer: yes.

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I don’t doubt the published velocity claims, but how many 7-08’s have a 24” test barrel?


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Originally Posted by Brad
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In all my years of hunting, I've only shot 1 elk over 300 (350). Most have been under 200. The last 3 years I shot 1 at 150 and 2 under 75.


Fascinating.




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Originally Posted by bludog
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by bludog
Below are some readily available internet loads from reliable sources for the 7-08:

140 gr bullets, 24" barrel
Hodgdon data - StaBall 6.5 - 2976 fps
Alliant data - RL-16 - 2952 fps
Barnes data - RL-17 - 2911 fps
Barnes data - A-2700 - 2939 fps
Barnes data - Big Game - 2910 fps
Barnes data - 2000MR - 2933 fps
Hornady data - 2000MR - 2918 fps
Hornady data - W760 - 2917 fps
Hornady data is with a 139 gr bullet, and a 22" barrel

It's a great round, that doesn't have to be hot rodded to reach out as far as most hunters would want to shoot. Wife or I (sometimes both of us) have shot one for the past 15 years. The 139 gr LRX will be the bullet of choice for my next elk hunt.



I don’t believe these velocity claims.


Pharm, I sure ain't trying to start a pissing match and I know you have lots of experience with the 7-08 and Big Game, and I appreciate your sharing your experience with all of us on the Fire. These numbers came from businesses that made either the powder or the bullet, tested it and published the data. I'm just reporting it. I for one have verified that 2000MR, W760, A2700, and RL-17 can all exceed 2900 fps in a 24" barrel without going over the manufacturer's max powder charge. Barnes Big Game load with a 140 gr TSX/TTSX is 49.1 gr of powder. Don't you reckon that'll get you to 2910 fps? Good hunting brother.



Don’t get me wrong, I’m not doubting you, I’m doubting the businesses who make money from those claims.


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I tested some loads in a couple of 7mm08 rifles I've been building over the last year or so.
Tested with my 140 gr Nosler partition loads using W760 powder and regular LR primers.
No signs of pressure issues yet.
Using Caldwell chrono
Shooting at 8000' elev may have helped getting these velocities

24" Krieger barrel, 3 shots, Velocity was 2909, 2928,2945 = 2927 avg
24" Lilja barrel, 3 shots, velocity was 2815, 2944, 2940 = 2899 avg


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Originally Posted by AZmark
I tested some loads in a couple of 7mm08 rifles I've been building over the last year or so.
Tested with my 140 gr Nosler partition loads using W760 powder and regular LR primers.
No signs of pressure issues yet.
Using Caldwell chrono
Shooting at 8000' elev may have helped getting these velocities

24" Krieger barrel, 3 shots, Velocity was 2909, 2928,2945 = 2927 avg
24" Lilja barrel, 3 shots, velocity was 2815, 2944, 2940 = 2899 avg




I get 2885 with 140 Partitions from a 22.4” Tikka so I think your numbers are accurate.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
In all my years of hunting, I've only shot 1 elk over 300 (350). Most have been under 200. The last 3 years I shot 1 at 150 and 2 under 75.


Fascinating.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
In all my years of hunting, I've only shot 1 elk over 300 (350). Most have been under 200. The last 3 years I shot 1 at 150 and 2 under 75.


Fascinating.




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Originally Posted by rdd
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What are your thoughts on a 7mm-08 with 140 gr Accubonds at 2960 fps and an elk out at 500yds. .


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I've shot over 20 with my 7-08 and the 140 accubond at 2860.

Farthest was 620. My brother killed a bull with my rifle at 486....rest have been 300 or less, majority less than 200.


I think Buzz is the one that gave you the answer you need. My experience with the 7-08 on elk is limited to exactly one bull with a 150 Ballistic Tip at 40 yards, but I'd have no hesitation with the 7-08/140 NAB at 500 yards.

Aside, in the three 22" 7-08's I owned, I generally loaded 140's at around 2,830 +/-. If you're running a 22" barrel, you're dancing with the angels @ 2,960. A 24" barrel will barely get you there with a couple of powders. Maybe.

I've said it before, I think the 7-08 is the most hot-rodded cartridge on the campfire...

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What are your thoughts on a 7mm-08 with 140 gr Accubonds at 2960 fps and an elk out at 500yds. .


Originally Posted by BuzzH
I've shot over 20 with my 7-08 and the 140 accubond at 2860.

Farthest was 620. My brother killed a bull with my rifle at 486....rest have been 300 or less, majority less than 200.


I think Buzz is the one that gave you the answer you need. My experience with the 7-08 on elk is limited to exactly one bull with a 150 Ballistic Tip at 40 yards, but I'd have no hesitation with the 7-08/140 NAB at 500 yards.

Aside, in the three 22" 7-08's I owned, I generally loaded 140's at around 2,830 +/-. If you're running a 22" barrel, you're dancing with the angels @ 2,960. A 24" barrel will barely get you there with a couple of powders. Maybe.

I've said it before, I think the 7-08 is the most hot-rodded cartridge on the campfire...



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What are your thoughts on a 7mm-08 with 140 gr Accubonds at 2960 fps and an elk out at 500yds. .


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Originally Posted by WAM
I don’t doubt the published velocity claims, but how many 7-08’s have a 24” test barrel?

Just about no factory 7-08 rifles with 24" barrels. So get real and post real-world data from 22" barrels.

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My 7-08 700 North American SS custom shop has a 24” barrel.

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I had three factory 7-08s with 24" barrels, one was a Winchester "Super Shadow", one was a Remington SPS, and one was a factory takeoff barrel off of a Rem 700 Ti Alaskan. Still have the 24" fluted barrel of the Alaskan, it's been reamed to 7-08AI and is now in the SPS action and a Bansner HiTech stock. Wife took a nice 7x8 bull in NM in 2015 with that combo at 405 yds using 120 gr TTSX. You can add about 40-50 fps to what you're seeing with a 22" barrel.

And PS, you don't have to hot rod the AI to get 2900 fps+ easily with 140 grainers. I'm not looking for max velocity, just a good decent velocity and best accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by AZmark
I tested some loads in a couple of 7mm08 rifles I've been building over the last year or so.
Tested with my 140 gr Nosler partition loads using W760 powder and regular LR primers.
No signs of pressure issues yet.
Using Caldwell chrono
Shooting at 8000' elev may have helped getting these velocities

24" Krieger barrel, 3 shots, Velocity was 2909, 2928,2945 = 2927 avg
24" Lilja barrel, 3 shots, velocity was 2815, 2944, 2940 = 2899 avg




I get 2885 with 140 Partitions from a 22.4” Tikka so I think your numbers are accurate.




The only 7mm-08 I own is a tikka superlite but I think I remember reading that Tikkas commonly have slow barrels. Any truth to this that you're aware of?

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My Tikka is fast, I get right at published velocities for 24in barrels with the factory barrel. Tight chamber or fast barrel, whatever. It's also very accurate. I've used two different cronos to test.

120 BTs and H4895 3080fps, this is the load I use, low recoil, kills elk and deer easily, just well balanced in a light rifle.

Big Game I've gotten 3160 with the 120 BT

Staball 6.5, 139gr SST, I've gotten 3035, 3011, 3015 with max 51gr... and 2989, 3002 with 50gr. In a light gun it really jumped/recoiled, primers a bit flat and ejector marks, bolt lift was fine. Overall I don't like the balance of rifle and load. Dropped down to 48gr and it averaged about 2880fps, much better to shoot.

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