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Georgia high school QB Robbie Roper was ready to embark on college career when he mysteriously died Josh Peter, USA TODAY - 9h ago
Seated among the mourners at First Baptist Church in Woodstock, Georgia on Tuesday, members of the Roswell High School football team stood out in their green jerseys.
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John Madden, football, 1936-2021 Another one lay draped across the closed casket.
That jersey, No. 5, had belonged to Robbie Roper, a high school quarterback whose rise as a college prospect was almost as sudden as his death.
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On Dec. 22, with Billy Napier of Florida and coaches from other top-flight programs reaching out to the long-overlooked quarterback, Roper died at the age of 18.
A week before his death, Roper wrote on Twitter, “Phone rang … had a Great call with Head Coach @Lane_Kiffin. Things are heating up."
He had so much going for him.
At 6-3 and 205 pounds, Roper bedeviled opponents with his powerful right arm, deceptive speed and ability to read defenses. He also had a 3.9 GPA.
This past season, following up on a strong junior year, he passed for more than 3,000 yards along with 37 touchdowns despite playing with a torn labrum in his left shoulder.
He led Roswell to a 10-3 record and an shocking victory over North Cobb, a heavy favorite heading into their second-round playoff matchup. With Roswell trailing by 43-35, Roper ran for two touchdowns in the final minute and scored the game winner as the game clock expired, setting off bedlam after the 46-43 victory.
A couple of weeks later, longtime recruiting analyst Tom Lemming wrote on Twitter, “Do you know who might just be the most underrated QB in the country? Robbie Roper."
Do you know who might just be the most underrated QB in the country? Robbie Roper 6‘4“ 215 Roswell HS, GA. This season passed for over 3800 yards and 42 tds. The 4.0 student has a very strong arm, excellent foot speed and smarts.@robbieroper2022 well deserving of his 4* rating.
— Tom Lemming (@LemmingReport) December 13, 2021 At the end of his senior season, Roper had scholarship offers from four Division I schools, none from the Power 5 conferences. But as word and video of his on-field performances circulated, Roper’s recruitment gained momentum before his life came to a mysterious end.
How did a seemingly healthy, 18-year-old athlete die unexpectedly?
During the funeral service, which was attended by approximately 1,000 people, the Roper family for the first time publicly addressed the cause of death.
Several published reports cited complications from shoulder surgery Dec. 14 as the cause of death, which took place eight days later. But Roper’s father, James, said that's not true.
“And he didn’t kill himself," James Roper said. “I want to make sure that’s clear. But even at the hospital they couldn’t figure out what was wrong with him."
Roper died at UF Health Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Florida after falling ill while visiting nearby St. Augustine for a family reunion, according to Patrick Carlisle, the offensive coordinator at Roswell High.
The Medical Examiner's Office in Gainesville did not conduct an autopsy of Roper, according to Paula Greer, an administrative specialist in the office who referred questions to the hospital where Roper died.
As news of his death spread, some of Roper’s teammates, friends and family members replaced their Twitter profile photos with the image of his jersey No. 5.
LIVE LIKE 5💚 Robbie was able to touch so many hearts. I am beyond proud of the man he has become, and can only wish to be half as good of a teammate, leader, and person that Robbie was. #NewProfilePic pic.twitter.com/WVu0QMHOOL
— breanna roper (@b_rope__) December 22, 2021 Some added words of tribute: “Live Like 5."
During the funeral, after his father briefly addressed Roper’s death, the focus quickly shifted to the memorable way Roper lived.
Chris Prewet, head football coach at Roswell High, talked about the six touchdowns Roper threw in the season opener, his late-game heroics against North Cobb and his leadership skills.
But Prewet also shared memories of Roper reading to first graders when the football players and cheerleaders visited elementary schools on game day.
Rather than sit in a chair, Prewet said, Roper lowered himself onto the floor.
“He would dive right in and be down there with the kids,’’ Prewet told USA TODAY Sports.
In the locker room, Roper’s wide chin was a target.
“Yeah, we would make fun of his face,’’ Ethan Nation, the team’s top wide receiver, told USA TODAY Sports. Nation said he called Roper “Crimson Chin,’’ in reference to a cartoon character with a massive chin.
And so how would Roper fire back?
“He would just laugh and kind of take it,’’ Nation said. “He didn’t take anything to heart. Just always happy. Bright personality.’’
Carlisle called Roper “genuine” and “good-hearted” and said he recently found photos of Roper interacting with Jake Jeffries, a special-education student who served as manager of the football team.
Not that Roper was a choir boy in football cleats.
“They would egg Jake on knowing that I would be upset and they’d be smiling,’’ said Carlisle, who with a chuckle noted that Roper would beat him to the fieldhouse before practice. “He’d be the first guy I saw every day, either sitting in my chair playing (video games) or doing something that was going to get me upset.’’
It was a different story for Roper just two years earlier.
His sister, Breanna, played three seasons of softball at Georgia Tech before transferring to Ole Miss this year. But Roper thought his hopes of playing major college football were in peril after his sophomore season at Woodstock High School.
The team’s starting quarterback was a year older. Deciding he needed to start to get recruited, Roper transferred to nearby Roswell High, north of Atlanta, midway through his sophomore year.
He found himself competing against four other quarterbacks. Three days before the season opener, the coaches told him he’d won the starting job – and kept it.
Helping lead Roswell to an 8-3 record and the first round of the playoffs, Roper passed for 2,197 yards with 23 touchdowns and nine interceptions.
But there were no college offers by the next June when Roper was invited to a two-day football camp and got personal instruction from Kevin Sumlin, the former head coach at Houston, Texas A&M and Arizona.
“I knew that he could play at the Division I level, at a high level," Sumlin told USA TODAY Sports.
From grade school and through high school, Roper had worked with private quarterback coaches -- three in all, and one, Ron Veal, who mentored Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields years before they reached the NFL this year.
But Sumlin said he was most impressed with something other than Roper’s physical ability.
“Let’s just be honest, I can say it, he’s the goofy white kid from outside Atlanta,’’ Sumlin said with a chuckle. “And these (other) guys, didn’t matter what race, didn’t matter where they were from, he’s communicating and these guys are having a ball.
“To be able to fit in and to lead, that’s a whole other skill set and that’s something you cannot take for granted, particularly at that position."
Sumlin said Roper’s recruitment likely suffered from the reduced opportunity for college coaches to scout during the COVID-19 pandemic and the increased reliance on college transfers at quarterback.
Then, during the fifth game of Roper’s senior season, there was a new issue.
He suffered a torn labrum in his left shoulder.
Though Roper is right-handed, his shoulder separated twice in that game before he headed to the sidelines for good. Roper considered undergoing surgery that would have ended his season before deciding to play with his left arm in a harness.
Over the final seven games of the season, he completed 67.9% of his passes for 1,527 yards and 18 touchdowns with four interceptions.
“To play at the level he played says a lot about his toughness,’’ Sumlin said.
Roswell’s season ended in the quarterfinals of the playoffs with a 20-10 loss to Grayson, the defending 7A state champion. But people in Roswell have talked far more of the previous game and Roper's memorable performance against North Cobb, when he passed for 275 yards and two touchdowns before running for two more touchdowns in the final minute..
‘He played nearly a perfect game that night,’’ said Prewet, the the head coach at Roswell. "He basically willed us to victory.''
During the on-field celebration Roper embraced his girlfriend, Annie Bowers, a Roswell High cheerleader he started dating three months ago.
He also got a hug from his sister who said she was the first fan to run onto the field and that she chased down her brother to congratulate him.
“That’s a memory I’ll cherish forever,’’ Breanna said. "He’s always been an amazing football player, and it’s amazing that everyone finally got to see that.
"This year he really got to shine.’’
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You know the question.
RIP young man.
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Yes.
Rest in peace Robbie Roper, a very young life gone. Condolences.
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Shands Hospital is a good place to avoid. Like the plague.
I am..........disturbed.
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Eighteen year old athletes do not just keel over, dead. Something fishy here.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!??
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Ssshhhh
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No clue how he died, and no autopsy? Something stinks
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Healthy young man dies sudden no autopsy. I suspect he took the Vaccine.
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Let’s make it about the vax. Predictable. No way he could have died from anything else.
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Just an outside possibility, maybe a sub arachnoidal tear/aneurysm.
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So dad tells us what didn’t cause his death, but not what did cause his death.
Why didn’t Dad demand an autopsy, unless he already knew and wanted it kept quiet.
I know if one of my boys just up and died, there would be an autopsy even if I had to pay for it myself.
Does not pass the smell test.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did.
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If his parents won't allow an autopsy, I'd be highly suspicious. Steroids? The vax? I'm surprised the cops don't order one unless Daddy's got both pull and something to hide.
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The kid had surgery 8 days before he died. Dad knows the cause of death, no need for an autopsy, but will not release it to the public. Will only say that it wasn't related to the surgery. And was not suicide. My guess is accidental overdose from recreational drugs. Another Len Bias story. That's just an educated guess, but is as good as any other.
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We know this much, it's truly sad. That young fella had his life before him cut short. Sad, sad.
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If there was a claim that no autopsy was performed, I call BS. Any time a kid his age dies suddenly, there is an autopsy done. Something is really fishy.
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We know this much, it's truly sad. That young fella had his life before him cut short. Sad, sad. Amen. No matter what the cause this is a horrible situation to live through. My prayers for his family. KC
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jmr40 I agree. Probably an OD from recreational drugs. The coroner in Georgia, and have "been there" for many autopsies in Georgia, most of which I am trying to forget, but the coroner in Georgia can order an autopsy on any death he deems "suspicious." Sounds like Daddy has some political pull.
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Sudden death in a otherwise healthy individual at his age is a autopsy. End of story. Not optional. Non negotiable
Parents and family have no say in it. No one gives a crap about your religious beliefs or wishes at that point. Medical examiner and detectives order it and it’s done. Their protocol would have called for it even if surgery, vac, car accident, etc. it doesn’t matter
He had a autopsy. Even if he shot himself in the head. He got a autopsy
Managed/ran a morgue for 8 years. I assure you. They did a autopsy and full toxicology screen
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Just an outside possibility, maybe a sub arachnoidal tear/aneurysm. Nope, already decided by those don't really. Covid vax.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower?
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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How many were vaccinated?
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. Ask TRH, his term not mine. My post was tongue-in-cheek.
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Something missing from this story. Intentional, I am thinking. Obvious questions not asked? Standard protocol not followed. Something stinks.
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Something missing from this story. Intentional, I am thinking. Obvious questions not asked? Standard protocol not followed. Something stinks. Definitely something missing. The Truth.
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Sounds like the father knows the cause of death, but chose not to disclose it which is up to him and his family.
It's a sad deal all the way around, no matter what the cause. If it was my son and I had any inkling that the covid vaccine caused it, I would not sit on that information and I doubt he would either.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. You leftist lying low life POS, which local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are unvaxed? Where is this Tsunami? It is too bad beating you stupid jackasses to death for lying isn't legal.
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Family is probably getting paid off to keep quiet about the “vaccine”…
17 year old kid in the town I work in had a stroke and is now having to learn how to do everything again. They make it a point to say he didn’t have covid but won’t mention his vax status, nor does anyone seem to know. I asked, nobody knew. They’re getting paid to stay quiet…
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. You leftist lying low life POS, which local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are unvaxed? Where is this Tsunami? It is too bad beating you stupid jackasses to death for lying isn't legal. Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated. No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable.
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Family is probably getting paid off to keep quiet about the “vaccine”…
17 year old kid in the town I work in had a stroke and is now having to learn how to do everything again. They make it a point to say he didn’t have covid but won’t mention his vax status, nor does anyone seem to know. I asked, nobody knew. They’re getting paid to stay quiet… Sounds about right.
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Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated.
No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable.
Definition of unvaxed: Vaccinated with only one shot, or vaccinated with two shots but less than two weeks have passed since the second shot. Change that definition to anyone who's had the shot, and hospital stats will look dramatically different.
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Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated.
No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable.
I'm unvaccinated, live in W. Michigan and had COVID on 12/28. It's been like a bad cold. Much like the vaccinated, I had early treatment, it just wasn't in the form of multiple mRNA injections. The unvaccinated are still widely going untreated prior to hospitalization in W. Michigan. It's a travesty driven by Spectrum's corporate treatment protocols. That said, this thread and it's premise is beyond stupid. The guessing game nonsense is retarded.
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My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen.
Not recreational drugs, nor is it a vax issue.
He was undergoing routine shoulder surgery and had an issue with the anesthesia. A proper explanation of the issue is above my pay grade but local media, family and teammates have an accounting of it.
I’m going on memory here but ammonia levels during the surgery went seriously out of balance if I remember correctly. This led to his medical emergency eventually shutting down his brain and respiratory systems.
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My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen. . Campfire protocol sir.
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Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated.
No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable.
Definition of unvaxed: Vaccinated with only one shot, or vaccinated with two shots but less than two weeks have passed since the second shot. Change that definition to anyone who's had the shot, and hospital stats will look dramatically different. Not really. Mayo’s numbers show the vaccinated percentage just above 60%, with about 10% more having had one shot. This has been stable for months now. People have pretty well decided whether or not to be vaccinated. There is no huge number of partially vaccinated people to skew the data. A fair number of kids are probably partially vaccinated at this time. That would not affect hospital numbers much as it’s quite rare for a kid to be sick enough from Covid to require admission.
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I'm not pro covid vax, but how did you guys connect those dots? There is no mention of covid or the vax in that article.
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Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated.
No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable.
Definition of unvaxed: Vaccinated with only one shot, or vaccinated with two shots but less than two weeks have passed since the second shot. Change that definition to anyone who's had the shot, and hospital stats will look dramatically different. It's my understanding that vaccination status is self reported and thus could mean anything. As an aside, Spectrum's monoclonal antibody clinics have zero availability. As of 12/26 they were booked out 10 days.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I'm not pro covid vax, but how did you guys connect those dots? There is no mention of covid or the vax in that article. 1. Step one is to not read the OP or subsequent posts. 2. Step two is to post whatever nonsense pops out of your head. 3. Step three is to repeat steps one and two.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I'm not pro covid vax, but how did you guys connect those dots? There is no mention of covid or the vax in that article. It’s the campfire. We specialize in connecting dots and reading sign. Sheesh.
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My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen. . Campfire protocol sir. Tinfoil hats required. 🦫
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If I had to guess* , I'd say he either OD'd on pain pills, or had a blood clot from surgery. Why wouldn't you get an autopsy?
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If I had to guess* , I'd say he either OD'd on pain pills, or had a blood clot from surgery. Why wouldn't you get an autopsy? My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen.
Not recreational drugs, nor is it a vax issue.
He was undergoing routine shoulder surgery and had an issue with the anesthesia. A proper explanation of the issue is above my pay grade but local media, family and teammates have an accounting of it.
I’m going on memory here but ammonia levels during the surgery went seriously out of balance if I remember correctly. This led to his medical emergency eventually shutting down his brain and respiratory systems.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I'm not pro covid vax, but how did you guys connect those dots? There is no mention of covid or the vax in that article. 1. Step one is to not read the OP or subsequent posts. 2. Step two is to post whatever nonsense pops out of your head. 3. Step three is to repeat steps one and two. Bravo.
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It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. [/quote] There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. [/quote] You leftist lying low life POS, which local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are unvaxed? Where is this Tsunami? It is too bad beating you stupid jackasses to death for lying isn't legal. [/quote] Since you asked, Spectrum Health West MI had 380 Covid inpatients on 12-28. 84% were unvaccinated. If those in their ICUs, 93% we’re unvaccinated. No real reason to conclude that Covid, or vaccines for it, were in any way associated with this young man’s death. Regardless, sorry to hear of this family’s tragedy. The pain is unimaginable. [/quote] Question not made to you by the way. Funny here in Texas hospitalizations are way down, absolutely no tsunami of people on ventilators and you cannot get stats on percentages of people vaxed/unvaxed. They just do not hand that information out. This is the 12/29 statewide reported covid related hospital caseload in Michigan. Those are regions not single hospitals.
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HMMMMM, NO mention weather he was vaxed or not!
Wonder why!!?? Yep. I read through the whole thing expecting them to say he had just gotten a booster. Of course you did. Well, you must admit that it's happening quite a lot. There's an avalanche of such cases going on. So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower? It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. You leftist lying low life POS, which local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are unvaxed? Where is this Tsunami? It is too bad beating you stupid jackasses to death for lying isn't legal. You know as much about me as you do about what is going on in hospitals. Which is nothing of course. Don’t let your paranoia blind you, contact your local hospital or stroll thru the ICUs and figure out how they are fabricating the numbers.
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My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen. . Campfire protocol sir. Tinfoil hats required. 🦫
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I see nobody has speculated on an OD of pain meds post surgery. It's far more likely than some crazy Covid vax assertions.
TV has become nothing more than the Petri dish where this country grows its idiots.
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Eighteen year old athletes do not just keel over, dead. Something fishy here. My friend's son did. He was a high-performance, clean-living, very popular kid. At 18 he graduated high school and, that fall, went off to college. He'd only been there a couple of days when, out throwing a frisbee around with some other kids one afternoon, he fell over dead. He had an undetected aortic aneurism and it just burst. That sort of thing happens sometimes.
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My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen.
Not recreational drugs, nor is it a vax issue.
He was undergoing routine shoulder surgery and had an issue with the anesthesia. A proper explanation of the issue is above my pay grade but local media, family and teammates have an accounting of it.
I’m going on memory here but ammonia levels during the surgery went seriously out of balance if I remember correctly. This led to his medical emergency eventually shutting down his brain and respiratory systems. How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
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I'm not pro covid vax, but how did you guys connect those dots? There is no mention of covid or the vax in that article. It’s the campfire. We specialize in connecting dots and reading sign. Sheesh. We can put dots where there are none to connect also............. It's easy....................................................................................................................
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
^^^This^^^ LMFAO
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I see nobody has speculated on an OD of pain meds post surgery. It's far more likely than some crazy Covid vax assertions. Definitely a possibility. He was several days post op from a labral repair on his non dominant shoulder. He was recovering with his family when he developed severe GI symptoms. He was life flighted to University of Florida with hepatic failure.
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If I had to guess* , I'd say he either OD'd on pain pills, or had a blood clot from surgery. Why wouldn't you get an autopsy? My gosh. Some folks can build up a false narrative as quick as anyone I’ve seen.
Not recreational drugs, nor is it a vax issue.
He was undergoing routine shoulder surgery and had an issue with the anesthesia. A proper explanation of the issue is above my pay grade but local media, family and teammates have an accounting of it.
I’m going on memory here but ammonia levels during the surgery went seriously out of balance if I remember correctly. This led to his medical emergency eventually shutting down his brain and respiratory systems. He died from anesthesia, a week later at a family reunion? "Roper died at UF Health Shands Hospital in Gainesville, Florida after falling ill while visiting nearby St. Augustine for a family reunion"
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Let’s make it about the vax. Predictable. No way he could have died from anything else. Whatever the case... Read last month that globally 17 renown soccer players died over the last six months from heart failure; all were vaxxed. Just last week four more died of heart attacks, again the common denominator was vax. These are some of the best athletes on Earth from a fitness standpoint. Keep telling yourself that this is all normal. Vax should not be taken by men under 40 due to myocarditis.
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Let’s make it about the vax. Predictable. No way he could have died from anything else. Whatever the case... Read last month that globally 17 renown soccer players died over the last six months from heart failure; all were vaxxed. Just last week four more died of heart attacks, again the common denominator was vax. These are some of the best athletes on Earth from a fitness standpoint. Keep telling yourself that this is all normal. Vax should not be taken by men under 40 due to myocarditis. Men as old as fifty have also developed that reaction to it.
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How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
^^^This^^^ LMFAO Dud, it's not funny. You can google "NWO" and they have a website and everything. And there's a tab you can click on to get reimbursed for posting on websites.
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How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
^^^This^^^ LMFAO Dud, it's not funny. You can google "NWO" and they have a website and everything. And there's a tab you can click on to get reimbursed for posting on websites. So it's like the Amazon Associates program for global mind control.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
^^^This^^^ LMFAO Dud, it's not funny. You can google "NWO" and they have a website and everything. And there's a tab you can click on to get reimbursed for posting on websites. So it's like the Amazon Associates program for global mind control. Yep, and the funny thing is, you didn't even notice that I called you "dud." Coincidence?
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How much are agents of the NWO paying you to insert this sort of thing here and elsewhere?????
^^^This^^^ LMFAO Dud, it's not funny. You can google "NWO" and they have a website and everything. And there's a tab you can click on to get reimbursed for posting on websites. So it's like the Amazon Associates program for global mind control. Yep, and the funny thing is, you didn't even notice that I called you "dud." Coincidence? Damn, I guess it's working.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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So, you can link to the "sudden cardiac death" data among young athletes for 2018 and 2019, and they were how much lower?
It doesn't matter, there's an avalanche of cases. [/quote] There is also a tsunami of unvaxed people in ICU and on ventilators. Local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are this. So how about quantifying “avalanche”. [/quote] You leftist lying low life POS, which local hospital says 90% of all hospitalizations are unvaxed? Where is this Tsunami? It is too bad beating you stupid jackasses to death for lying isn't legal. [/quote] You know as much about me as you do about what is going on in hospitals. Which is nothing of course. Don’t let your paranoia blind you, contact your local hospital or stroll thru the ICUs and figure out how they are fabricating the numbers. [/quote] Read my post above airhead.
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I see nobody has speculated on an OD of pain meds post surgery. It's far more likely than some crazy Covid vax assertions. Definitely a possibility. He was several days post op from a labral repair on his non dominant shoulder. He was recovering with his family when he developed severe GI symptoms. He was life flighted to University of Florida with hepatic failure. A simple cocktail of Tylenol for pain (possibly taken to excess by the patient) and inflammation and Augmentin to control any infection could cause hepatic failure. That's far and away more the suspect than foil-hat Covid vax hysteria.
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It would take about 15 Extra Strength Tylenol to destroy this young man's liver.
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Nobody knows…period!!! This Covid bug is genetically modified….it’s a novel virus. It’s possible, that this virus can cause blood clots, cardiovascular inflammation, strokes etc. even if you never knew you had contracted it.
These vaccines were approved under “emergency use authorization” Might there be side effects similar to the ones I listed above??? Absolutely…. Anybody who claims anything else isn’t being honest…. NOBODY knows, because we haven’t had enough time to study all the variables.
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Wow ... that story is some kinda odd.
Something strange.
What you think about, you do ... what you do, you become. In a nation where anything goes ... eventually, everything will. We're almost there.
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It would take about 15 Extra Strength Tylenol to destroy this young man's liver. Taken with something like Augmentin magnifies the potential for liver damage greatly, and it could cause a lot of damage quickly with a bit too much Tylenol and normal doses of Augmentin.
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JV Cain of the St. Lious Cardinals dropped dead in training camp.
How many physicals do yo suppose he had before that?
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JV Cain of the St. Lious Cardinals dropped dead in training camp.
Don't forget Darryl Kile. Amother Cardial, died suddenly of heart problems at 33.
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