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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Highly recommend Benard Devoto’s edition "The Journals of Lewis & Clark"



kaywoodie;
Good evening my cyber friend, I do hope you folks are warmer and getting less snow than we're about to partake of.

When I was doing up my 2022 reading list above, I thought that you'd either enjoy them or might have read them.

As mentioned I've got a copy of DeVoto's book and have read it a couple times.

It's interesting to me how quickly on their heels the Pacific Fur Company was out establishing posts.

Anyways sir, all the very best to you in 2022.

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Think you would have like being on it?


Weren't they racists?


We can’t ask York. He dead

And , Cruzatte shot Lewis in the ass!

But they was both white.

Said he mistook him for an elk. That’s pan-racist isnt it???


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Very few men today could make that trip under the same conditions.

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Originally Posted by BC30cal
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Highly recommend Benard Devoto’s edition "The Journals of Lewis & Clark"



kaywoodie;
Good evening my cyber friend, I do hope you folks are warmer and getting less snow than we're about to partake of.

When I was doing up my 2022 reading list above, I thought that you'd either enjoy them or might have read them.

As mentioned I've got a copy of DeVoto's book and have read it a couple times.

It's interesting to me how quickly on their heels the Pacific Fur Company was out establishing posts.

Anyways sir, all the very best to you in 2022.

Dwayne


Thanks Dwayne! Got up to a pleasant 73F today. Was almost 80 yesterday and day before!

My fav is the Santa Fe trail reading! Also read a good diary by Lt. James W. Abert on his topographical expedition thru Raton Pass and down the southern Canadian river into the nations.

And the much earlier Freeman-Custis expedition.

Little known but exciting stuff.

Have a great weekend Dwayne. I’ll be off Saturday morning to the villa de Austin on the Brazos river (San Felipe) for an Eighth of January celebration. Big national holiday!!!

You take care!

Ton ami

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I live a couple hundred yards from the Yellowstone River that Clark made his return trip to meet Lewis at the confluence of the Yellowstone and the Missouri rivers.
I would have loved to have been on that trip!

The Yellowstone probably still looks the same now as it did to Clark

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Little known fact.


While it is true that the expedition suffered many westward challenges, the return trip back east was actually quite comfortable.

Clark was reported to be especially fond of Amtrak's sky car.

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Originally Posted by Jericho
werent they almost starving at one point during the journey?
yes. Through Idaho going west they found no game at all. They ate 1 horse.

They lived for more than 2 years on meat and water.


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Highly recommend Benard Devoto’s edition "The Journals of Lewis & Clark"




^^^This^^^

What a wet and miserable winter they spent in Oreegone. Can't even imagine.


Tough bastards, for sure.


The stories of the meat hunters were cool. Can you imagine bringing down elk with an air rifle?


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I would have jumped at the chance as a young guy back in that time. One of the most uncomfortable aspects even over hunger and danger would have been the mosquitoes IMO. I read that at one point they were so thick that even the dog they brought with them howled in agony. I hate skeeters!

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The hardships of the trip were much closer to the hardships of daily life in those days.

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The hardships of the trip were much closer to the hardships of daily life in those days.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by Jericho
werent they almost starving at one point during the journey?



They ate approx. 400 dogs while on the trip.

But they didn’t eat Seaman.



And I believe they enjoyed the experience.

Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Highly recommend Benard Devoto’s edition "The Journals of Lewis & Clark"



I will have to keep an eye out for that one. I've got a U of Nebraska press, edited by Moulton that was a decent read.


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