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But you guys knew that. So I come back from the local dealer, all happy with my latest acquisition, a lovely Marlin 1895 "Cowboy" in 45/70, with a nice long octagonal tube and in GREAT condition, when my other "tempting supplier" Woody (AKA FLYBOYFLEM) texts me "hey I'm at Cabelas (La Vista, NE) and there is a NIB (but selling as used for some reason Winchester (Miroku) 1886 in 45/90! CCH receiver and butt plate. Been looking for one for a WHILE so here we are...(I was unable to secure a set of dies anywhere, but Woody loaned me a set and gave me some brass, also unavailable)...Now to work up loads, but I do have some data. If any of you have loads, either with 400 plus or 300gr gas check lead pills, I'd appreciate the input. Thanks in advance!
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Your 1886 45-90 will be more pretty than mine but it will likely shoot the same -- very well.
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Sorry, but my only cast bullet recipe was for 325 grain pills and , yes they shot well. Most of my 45-90 has been with modern bullets such as North Fork, Punch, Winchester Gold 300 grain Nosler PP ( my fave for deer and Leopard! ) 450 grain solids for Africa, and right now, NF 350 grain SS in my 1886 and my Beretta 45-70 DR and soon to be 45-90 DR. Load data for the latter upon completion of testing, but it should make you smile.
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I didn't know North Fork was back in business. Fortunately, I have a lifetime supply for my 405 and 450NE smile


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Yes, making the bullets in Sweden and shipping them over.
I also have a good supply from back when, but these were from Mike for me to go shoot something and brag about it. Gladly! I am eager to see how they shoot in my 1886 as it has been several days since I loaded them and have been grounded by the wind or rain. I loaded them at 60, 65, 67, and 69 grains of N133 but have not been out with chrony. Now some are being used to regulate
my DR.

I also have a box of 45-90 NF 450 grain FPS loaded to 2150 fps left over from Africa. Maybe go shoot some bison?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-90_Sharps

Interesting info on 45-90 Express.
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Glad you snagged it, it's a nice piece and the price for NIB was a surprise especially for our local Cabelas. Mine as you know is CR's twin but this one was really tempting !

I'll keep looking for dies as well as cases and give you a heads up if I see something...Your dies are inbound should be there Mon or Tues...


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A great story!
Thanks!


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jorgeI - I have a Marlin 1895 Cowboy in 45-70 approx 2003 vintage. I use 54 gr IMR 4350 under 40:1 cast Lyman 457193 (RNFP) lubed with 1:1 beeswax/mineral oil mix and a card wad. I crimp enough to keep the bullet from falling out or going farther into the case when loading the tube.


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Thanks, Otter, Sounds like a good load


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jorgeI - That load has worked well on at least 4 deer, one was about a 230# (field dressed), 11 pt whitetail at our farm in Nebraska. He went down as if he had been hit with Thor's hammer.

I almost always hauled 4 or 5 different rifles to deer camp so keeping track of which deer was killed by which rifle gets more and more fluid as I age. One time my Dad asked why I brought so many rifles and I gave him two reasons - 1) I have them and 2) I don't know what I will feel like shooting/carrying on any given day.


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You oughta name one of em "Dolly" and the other "Parton." That's a big pair.


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I like big pairs too. My grandpa use to say that "anymore than a mouth full was a waste" though..


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Jorge that's a nice pair!

Let me know if you decide to break them up!

I really need another 45-70 or a 45-90!


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Lyman 49th has a fair bit of load data for both and mostly cover the bullet weights you refer to. Reloader 7 will be your friend. If you don’t have that manual let me know what specific bullet weight and alloy and I’ll send you their data.


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I really need another 45-70 or a 45-90!

Get the .45-90 and you will have both!


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Lyman 49th has a fair bit of load data for both and mostly cover the bullet weights you refer to. Reloader 7 will be your friend. If you don’t have that manual let me know what specific bullet weight and alloy and I’ll send you their data.


Thanks, Dan. I Woody casts some teally nice 425gr gas checks for me and I obtained good results with IMR 4198. I've have good results with RL-7 with my 375 WInchester.


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CRSHELTON, thank you for that very interesting story. That was quite a feat.

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