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Would You Shoot an Albino or Piebald Deer?

I've never seen an albino nor piebald deer and if I did, I'm not sure if I'd shoot or not. Where legal, of course.

How 'bout you?


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I Passed Up an Albino Buck. And a Piebald Doe. The Reasons Why May Surprise You.

Why do so many of us give these genetically inferior animals special treatment? Are they just venison in a different wrapper or something much more?

BY SCOTT BESTUL | PUBLISHED JAN 6, 2022 6:00 PM

Albino and piebald deer have been in the news lately, here and in other venues, as they seem to be every fall. And every time I read these reports, I am transported to a pair of encounters that happened to me many years ago.

Both memories are linked to Buffalo County, Wisconsin, which has long dominated the B&C record book as America’s top trophy county. Buffalo is also well-known (though mainly by locals) for its population of albino whitetails, although they were the furthest thing from my mind as I bowhunted my friend’s farm one early November afternoon. The rut was building, and I was on a hardwood ridge connecting a pair of farm fields. Conditions were perfect for rattling, so I grabbed my antlers, cracked them together a few times, and then paused to listen. The unmistakable shuffle of a buck plodding through leaves had me hanging the horns and reaching for my bow as quickly as possible.

I still remember the flashes of white I saw as the buck approached and, this being dairy country, I also remember wondering if some stray, lonely Holstein had heard me and was looking for company. Then the full, stark-white head and neck of the buck emerged from the cover, followed by a broad flank that made me think of a winged Pegasus. The 10-pointer tromped to the edge of bow range, looked around for the fight and–seeing none–flicked his tail and walked on. Though fully protected by state law, that buck would have been safe from me regardless of statute. Maybe you can’t say that I passed him, given the law, but I certainly would have. I’ve been deer hunting for nearly 50 years, and I still count that encounter as one of my most memorable and certainly most mythic.

What About Piebald Deer? Are they as Sacred as True Albinos?

The second encounter occurred on a late-season bowhunt, on a different farm in the same county. While I’d heard rumors of a piebald doe frequenting that property, I had not seen her in almost three seasons of hard hunting. All of that changed on a December afternoon when I trudged through the snow to a stand overlooking an apple orchard. I’d not tagged a deer that fall and vowed to arrow the first legal deer I encountered. My resolve wilted when I spotted a doe heading toward the orchard that seemed to appear and disappear as her splotchy white body slid through trees and brush.

I’ve had several deer track me to my stand over the years, but none as memorable as this one. When the piebald doe encountered my boot track, she buried her nose in the print, popped her head up to look around, then high-stepped to the next track and repeated the inspection. Within minutes she was no more than 10 yards away. The albino buck had been mesmerizing, but this dappled doe was simply beautiful, with cream-white patches on her neck, pure-white markings on her shoulders and flank, and a pear-shaped saddle on her back that reminded me of an Appaloosa horse.

She stood there long enough that I had time to engage in a little argument with myself. On one hand, this was a perfectly legal deer, and I had an empty freezer. And wouldn’t that hide look amazing tanned and tacked on my den wall? On the other hand, well, she was simply the prettiest whitetail I had ever seen in many decades of watching whitetails. When I hung my bow back up on its hook, the doe looked up at me, decided that the shivering blob she’d spotted looked perfectly natural skylit in the tree, wagged her tail, and walked off. Over the years I’ve had several friends tell me I was crazy not to take such a unique trophy, but I have never doubted the correct side won the argument that day. That doe lived for five more seasons before disappearing from that farm and, while it has been years since I hunted there, I like to think she left a string of offspring, some of them never losing their spots come fall.

The Reasons to Pass White Deer Are Not All Touchy-Feely

I tell these tales not only because I like to remember them, but also as proof that I understand people, including many hunters, who argue that white, or even semi-white, deer are special and need our protection. You hear some of these folks pipe up any time an albino whitetail story appears. If a hunter kills a legal white buck, he gets bashed for being some sort of troglodyte, or if an albino is spared, the responsible party is held up as some kind of special savior. It’s all a bit much. Anyone who thinks white deer should be protected in states they are not ought to contact their DNR and start a petition—not troll legal hunters.

The truth is, hunters who argue there’s no biological reason for protect white deer have some solid arguments for making them legal game. The same recessive gene that gives albinos their unusual color also makes them prone to diseases that don’t plague other deer; the buck I passed that long-ago day lived to be 9½ years old, and while it grew a huge rack (another rarity, as many albino bucks have stunted antlers most of their lives), it had to be killed by a warden as it wandered blindly (literally) down the middle of a road in daylight. Albinos are also more susceptible to predation than other deer. Finally, in an age of CWD and other diseases, why should a genetically inferior, more-disease-susceptible member of the species get a pass?

I get all of the these arguments. They are practical and logical. But practicality and logic aren’t everything. There’s beauty and awe to consider. When I reflect on my nearly 50 years of deer hunting, I realize how important it is to me that my sport possesses moments of beauty; if chasing whitetails just boiled down to filling a freezer or filling up an empty spot on the trophy wall, I probably would have become bored long ago. Instead, I return to the woods every fall to witness things that I can’t anywhere else—and often return home with nothing more tangible than a memory. The white deer I’ve encountered are etched in my mind as indelibly as any trophy buck. Even all these years later, I can see those deer in my mind’s eye and feel a sense of awe that distills the reason I go to the woods in the first place.

But there’s more to it than that—maybe surprisingly so for some. Many people think that the reasons for passing up white deer are all sentimental and touchy-feely. In fact, there are solid practical reasons rooted in biology. It’s not easy for a white deer, or a piebald deer for that matter, to produce a similarly-pigmented fawn. Both conditions are the result of a recessive gene, and, more to the point, both parents of a fawn must have that recessive gene to produce a white deer, and even then it’s no guarantee. In other words, the taking of only a handful of albino whitetails from an existing herd could have long-term implications for future survival; a 2001 story in the Minnesota DNR magazine The Volunteer notes that even if a buck with the albino gene successfully mates with a doe of similar genetic makeup, they have only a 1-in-4 chance of producing an albino fawn. The obvious proof of this is the fact that in places where they are protected, you have a decent chance of seeing an albino deer, whereas it’s especially rare outside of those places.

We value things that are rare in nature, whether they are precious metals or trophy bucks. Estimates place albino deer at about 1 in 20,000 or more, or about .005 percent. Less than 2 percent of whitetails are piebald. In other words, they are rare, indeed, and so it makes perfect sense to give them extra value and want to preserve them.

I would never take a fellow hunter to task for shooting an albino or piebald deer in a legal hunting situation. In fact, just a few weeks ago, I saw a pic of a hunter posing in a hero shot with a piebald buck and I honestly thought: How cool. What an awesome trophy for him. But in the two meetings I’ve had with white–or partially-white deer—I barely lifted a finger to grab my bow. They were amazing, mesmerizing experiences and therefore ones I hope my fellow hunters get to enjoy, and the best way to ensure that is not to shoot these deer.










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I have had an opportunity to take a piebald doe. My great grandmother was a full blooded Onondaga Indian who lived on the reservation near Syracuse. We visited her when I was young and listened to her stories. When I saw the piebald I put my scope on it and I swear I heard my great grandmothers voice in my ear say “ bad medicine to kill the white deer”. Chilled me to the bone. I lowered my gun and just watched the beautiful doe walk away. Every hunter must make this very personal choice and I don’t criticize whatever it is. For me my great grandmother guided my choice and I will never put another in my scope.


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Been there. Done that. She tasted just as good as any other doe.

We used to have a whole herd of piebald deer running around our place in the city. There was one buck that grew to 12 points. He showed up lame one year with a big gash in his side. After that, he disappeared.

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I would not.

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It’s a genetic abnormality, if it was a legal buck or a decent sized doe yes. Because,why not? And I would get the hide tanned because you don’t see them very often.

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That is a good question. I have never seen one so what would I do. Part of me says respect the rarity of the animal. The other part of me says that genetically inferior to diseases it should be removed from the breeding stock. If it was legal to shoot I probably would leave it due to the rarity so that it can produce more.

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I would not shoot one just because it was an albino or piebald, but being piebald or albino wouldn't be the reason to keep me from shooting it.

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I would and did! He was running with a larger buck which was completely ignored when I got a good look at this one.

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Tan the hide, grill the straps.

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Piebald- maybe
Albino-absolutely not


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Had him the scope at maybe 15-20 yards as he and some Does crossed a trail, but didn’t and dug the camera out as he walked into the brush

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Addition: Saw him again later in the season crossing an open field at dark. It was like watching a ghost.


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Seen 1 albino doe, just 1 in all my years on the ranch. Out moving irrigation pipe when she popped up on the edge of the meadow. Not hunting season, so I just took the time to watch.

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Originally Posted by shootsacreed
Piebald- maybe
Albino-absolutely not



That is kind of the way I'm leaning.

But then again, none of us really knows until the situation is in front of us.


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A large Ranch I used to manage in the TX Hill Country had 3 Albino does. They were off limits.


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I'm curious why the aversion to shooting an albino?

I guess it's illegal in some states? So, that is an obvious reason.

Anything else driving this?

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
I'm curious why the aversion to shooting an albino?

I guess it's illegal in some states? So, that is an obvious reason.

Anything else driving this?


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I have. A young doe, with a flintlock.

Was going to get the hide tanned,
until we got it home.
It was in the back of Dad's Blazer, he went into the house and hollered
"Mary, get out here. Look at this, your boy shot someone's goat!"

She got instantly pissed. Started hitting me.
When we unloaded it and she saw it was a deer, she insisted we get rid
of it. We have the meat away and threw the hide away


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Yep. Just a genetic mutation in regards to hair color. In a biological sense they are no better and no worse than any other deer. If legal I'd shoot.


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Rooster 7, as a kid I was told killing an albino deer was "bad luck"! I have never seen either while hunting in the past 49 years so it hasn't been an issue!


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I killed a 7 pointer in 2014 that had piebald markings on his front legs and chest. I didn't even see them before I shot. I don't remember ever seeing any others at our camp.


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not sure, never seen one


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Shot a nice eight that was a piebald several years ago . Thanksgiving morning, was pushed for time for dinner , made a quick walk up the mountain and a doe blowed to the left of me .
When I looked over I spotted him about 50-60 yds .
Had seen him earlier when they were still running in a bachelor bunch . There were three of them , another buck , scraggly rack and a doe , not the one that blew at me .
Had my Valmet 12/06 , leveled the rifle and shot .
He just stood there fixed on the doe .
I thought , WTH ?
Round two , he’s still standing there , hasn’t flinched , now my mind is racing all kinds of WTH thoughts .
Round three , he wobbled but still standing , finally collapsed . Time is getting critical , gutted him snatched him by the horns and down the mountain I went , moving so fast bout ran me over on a couple steep parts , lol .
Hung him up , took a couple Polaroid pictures to show dad , he was bed fast on feeding tubes .
His eyes watered up when I showed him the pictures , he loved hunting .
Got back from dinner ,proceeded to skin him out , never in my entire life have I seen so many ticks fall off a deer , literally rained ticks . Meat had tiny red streaks through the entire meat structure . Three holes through the ribs right behind elbow of shoulder , 180 grain Winchester fail safes . Doe had him in a bad way . Rolled the hide up and put on truck seat to take to a taxidermist and ticks were still crawling off him .
When we rolled him out on the table still ticks comming out as I was telling the taxidermist the story , he was astonished at the ticks comming out of the hide , espeacially after dragging and hanging for several hours .
Bad mojo , I don’t know , but threw the meat away , broke my heart to do it , but those red streaks and the very high number of ticks was enough for me .
Had him mounted and hide tanned , only deer I ever mounted , been close to 25 yrs ago and still looks good .
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I've killed 3 piebald deer, 2 bucks and 1 doe so far.
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Here is one my Cousin spotted. He had seen it previously around his place. I went over and got a pic before it jumped up and ran off....


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They are genetically inferior and where legal should be shot ones sentiments aside.

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Well, we all know Vic_in_Va's answer to this question !


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Originally Posted by fishnpbr
They are genetically inferior and where legal should be shot ones sentiments aside.

https://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/content/blogs/the-ethical-hunter/should-we-shoot-albinos


And the next to last sentence was what?

Nor does it appear the few that are birthed are causing any harm to the population genetics over a long history of development. Shoot them if you wish, however genetically inferior is a weak argument to do so.



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If the difference would show on a shoulder mount I'd shoot it if it was a legal deer. I wouldn't shoot a buck during an antlerless season or an antlerless deer during a bucks only season.

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Not legal here and I've never seen one. If it were legal I would consider them fair game. Cougars, wolves and coyotes would too, they aren't superstitious.


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I would not shoot it. I'm not superstitious, but I've always heard that Indian folklore says that it's bad Mojo.

I knew a guy that shot a piebald doe and had a full body mount done. His brother actually works for me, so we've had this discussion before. The year after he got the mount back from the taxidermist, he came down with brain cancer. He died the following year. About 5 years ago, his widow was getting rid of all of his stuff and they took the piebald to his mother's house. That Winter her house burned to the ground.

I had this piebald doe hanging around my house for a couple of years. She ended up getting hit by a car when it was snowing one day. The interesting thing was that it appeared as though the herd shunned her. She was usually by herself. Whenever you'd see her with the herd, she was always off to the side alone.

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Ha, I saw a all white doe a couple of weeks ago, got a far cell phone pic. Mostly private land but only about 2 miles from where I hunt. Iv also heard the bad mojo if you shoot one. I seen 3 piebalds had a six point in a food plot at 18 yrds for 30 mins, I had taken a 4 pt the week before, so legaly I couldn't shoot him. Saw a spike when I was about 20, 60 yards away, need him to step clear of a tree. He walked straight away no shot. And a few years ago out just driving around saw a piebald feeding near the road, it was short legged, had a short neck and a small head. Not good genetics in that one at all. And as said all of these deer the three pie balls and the albino deer were by them selves so that might be something to what one of the other posters was saying.


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the last deer my dad shot was a piebald doe. it is the only one i have ever seen.


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I killed an 11 point a few years ago that had more white on it's legs than normal and the white on the belly was higher up the body than normal.
A couple of guys had seen him and called him Old White Legs. So yes I wouldn't hold it against a deer for being too white.

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If it was a really fine buck, yes. Here's one that went the other way Cookie caught just preseason last fall. It's no longer with us, and no, I did not have a tag.
She also encountered a black fawn (born spring 2021) and a black doe (yearling born 2020) both about 20 miles away from this buck. They all seem to mingle well with the other 99.99%.

In the last 8 years we think we've had encounters with at least six black examples with all but this one being does.

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She's yet to catch up with an albino, but we'll put some pics up when it happens.

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There were quite a few piebalds in my area about 30 years ago. I shot a mostly white doe in ‘91 or ‘92. Had the hide tanned hair on. My son has it now. Haven’t seen one in at least 15 years.


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The town of Saint Germain, Wisconsin used to have a whole herd of them wandering around the town. Don't think it was legal to shoot them.

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Originally Posted by 1minute
If it was a really fine buck, yes. Here's one that went the other way that Cookie caught just preseason last fall. It's no longer with us, and no, I did not have a tag.
She also encountered a black fawn (born spring 2021) and a black doe (yearling born 2020) both about 20 miles away from this buck. They all seem to mingle well with the other 99.99%.

In the last 8 years we think we've had encounters with at least six black examples with all but this one being does.

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She's yet to catch up with an albino, but we'll put some pics up when it happens.

Wow, that's crazy. I don't believe I've seen even a picture of a black colored deer, 'til now.

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Not going to shoot a Piebald or white deer.

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There are a few white - not albino, I think - and/or piebald moose around here every once in awhile.

I saw a moose out of Fairbanks many years ago that was white well up his or her regs, including at least one shoulder. Never got a good enough look at it to tell.

Down in a heartbeat if legal, Diversity and superstitions be damned. They all eat the same.

In fact, if given a choice, I will almost always shoot an inferior cull animal in preference to a "better" one and I have the mounts to prove it. smile

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This is a very old piebald buck that lived it's life in a pen. Lots of folks thought it was albino, but it in fact a piebald deer. This picture was taken in 2018 and the deer was probably 18 years old at that time.

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I would have no problem shooting a piebald deer. If I knew that it was a true albino, I would be hesitant to shoot. Would probably just watch and take pictures.

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I killed a piebald doe this season. Only one I've ever seen in my life. The hide is with the taxidermist to be tanned now. Big white saddle from shoulder blades to hind quarters. White speckles on hams, shoulders and all the way down front and back legs. Wasn't sure what I was seeing at first as I saw her walking along the edge of the woods on the other side of a field in the gloom nearly 30 minutes past sunset..

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Just like any other deer-they are no different....If it is a mature albino or piebald, BANG!

I'm not superstitious and killing one does NOTHING to decrease their numbers because it is a mutation of the genes.


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A little bit different, but here is a dwarf shot in my home county today.

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A little bit different, but here is a dwarf shot in my home county today.

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Now I have seen one of those - it was a spike buck about the size of a cocker spaniel. At first I thought I was seeing things, imagining one of those taxidermist's "jackalopes." smile

I did not shoot it.

If not for another witness, my brother, seeing it, I'd still doubt myself.

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A friend's cousin shot it. Said it was about medium dog size...

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I'd pass. Not because of some superstition, but just because they're such a rare sight. Where I used to quail hunt, there was one. I saw it often, and looked forward to seeing it. Something you don't soon forget.

That's just me. I'm just sentimental about such things. I wouldn't condemn anyone else for taking any legal deer legally and ethically.


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We had a piebald spike cruising around the farm where I hunt last year. I passed him up once and saw him about four more times during hunting season. My son saw him a few times also and said that he'd shoot it if he had the chance. I told him he had enough bad luck as it was and he didn't need anymore. eek

Haven't seen him this year.

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I rarely get the opportunity to go out hunting and of course you never really know what you are going to do until the situation presents itself but I feel like I would just watch probably try to snap a picture. For me it would primarily just the beauty of seeing something different then I normally would. Gonna be honest though a close second is the superstition, I've always heard it ways bad Jo Jo. Have not idea if that's true but I don't find the need to test.

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We kill 1 or 2 every year, nothing special about them. Rio7

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Front yard a few years ago.


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I think albinos are freaks and piebalds are pretty cool.

If it is a mature buck, absolutely.
Albino doe probably not.
Piebald doe yes. Really cool piebald doe would be going to the taxidermist.

But I reserve the right to change mind depending on the situation whenever I want. cool


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I see one wearing a rack like that, I'm shootin.' shocked


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Originally Posted by skeen
I see one wearing a rack like that, I'm shootin.' shocked


Shouldn't be a problem seeing and shooting that one.....if you have the buck$.


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Good buck... more than likely.. he will have had a few years to spread his seed.
Doe... probably not... she might drop a buck with the same genetic defect.


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Good buck... more than likely.. he will have had a few years to spread his seed.
Doe... probably not... she might drop a buck with the same genetic defect.
You do realize that even if that doe dropped a piebald buck fawn it would likely be miles away after the doe drove it out of her territory and it established it's own right ?

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Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boy

While most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it.

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Another one that doesn't seem lacking in the genetics..


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Originally Posted by skeen
Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boy

While most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it.

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That's a pretty cool looking deer. Probably pretty close on the score too (not that it means a hill of beans anyway). Maybe shaman could chime in to get us an approximation. whistle


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I personally wouldn’t kill one, but I wouldn’t shame someone that did.

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Local legend down: Chase for White Face ends in victory for 11-year-old Ohio boy

While most deer have black lips and noses, White Face has a white nose and lips, white hooves, and like a lot of piebald and albino deer, it has blue eyes. Tom believes the 8-pointer will score in the 140 range, but its rack size is far less important than the memories it created with him and his son, and the lessons learned in the pursuit of it.

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That's a pretty cool looking deer. Probably pretty close on the score too (not that it means a hill of beans anyway). Maybe shaman could chime in to get us an approximation. whistle


The Rube Goldberg Ultimate B&C Scoring Machine would measure that buck well north of 200." grin

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Yes I would shoot it. I would skin it and keep the hide regardless of antler size or it being a doe. Be better in the latter case cause then I could still shoot the buck I want.


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My brother has a place in northern Wi. that has a few albinos hanging around

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I’ve had two piebald deer on cam in the last dozen or so years. One ( the last one from 2-3 years ago) I saw quite often. Had him under my stand in bow season and in rifle season. No idea what ever happened to him. NEver heard of him being killed. He was an odd little guy. Short legged and very stocky. I wondered if that was a genetic trait associated with being piebald. If he shows up this year…. I honestly don’t know if I’d kill him.

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I have seen a couple, never shot one

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Good buck... more than likely.. he will have had a few years to spread his seed.
Doe... probably not... she might drop a buck with the same genetic defect.
You do realize that even if that doe dropped a piebald buck fawn it would likely be miles away after the doe drove it out of her territory and it established it's own right ?



Yeah, I am well aware of yearling buck dispersal.


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Back in the 50's where I hunted whitetail in PA,They were quite common.There were signs up not to shoot them. I would have if I had the opportunity. Have never seen a muley one though.


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If legal I would shoot em.

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If it was a really fine buck, yes. Here's one that went the other way Cookie caught just preseason last fall. It's no longer with us, and no, I did not have a tag.
She also encountered a black fawn (born spring 2021) and a black doe (yearling born 2020) both about 20 miles away from this buck. They all seem to mingle well with the other 99.99%.

In the last 8 years we think we've had encounters with at least six black examples with all but this one being does.

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She's yet to catch up with an albino, but we'll put some pics up when it happens.



cool coloration. Never seen that before

Ive seen 1/2 doz piebalds hunting and one 8 point albino. Passed and at that time it was against the law to shoot albinos.

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I've killed two piebald.
Mercy killing.


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Piebald- maybe
Albino-absolutely not

Same here.

It's interesting to hear the sentiments about shooting white deer and how it's considered bad luck by some. Around here it's said that you'll die within one year if you shoot an albino deer.


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Originally Posted by nahma_mich
The town of Saint Germain, Wisconsin used to have a whole herd of them wandering around the town. Don't think it was legal to shoot them.

Boulder Junction too. I believe in Wisconsin Albino deer are off limits. I don’t think that applies to Piebalds however.

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A buddy hunting with me in Maine shot a piebald. An 8 pointer short of body, when the warden saw it at the check station he thanked him for killing it before it bred.

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Wife and I were traveling in her car and there was a dead piebald doe along side the road just south of Rutledge GA.


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I saw a piebald 6 point about 15 years ago and I let him walk. He was a young deer in apparently good health and I figured in a couple of years he would be a nice buck for someone. I didn't let him walk because he was a piebald. Never saw him again or heard of him being seen.

5 or 6 years ago my nephew saw this piebald fawn bedded down on the same property that I saw the 6 point on. He didn't bother the fawn and eased out of the area. A couple of years later, on a neighboring property, a friend saw what we think was the same deer. We haven't seen it since.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
I'm curious why the aversion to shooting an albino?


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If it was a deer I wanted to shoot otherwise, it wouldn't make a difference to me it it was piebald, albino or not.


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Piebald…yes. We have had a few of them in this region, and I would probably shoot one if I had the opportunity. Albino…no. We had a pure Albino doe hanging on the property we hunt back in 2015 and marveled in it’s coolness for about 3 years until it jumped out in front of a neighbor on the main road and got hit and killed. We had a gentlemen’s agreement among the bordering properties to not shoot it. We figured it was a once in a lifetime deer, and so far it has been.

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I've never seen a piebald or albino muley but they do exist. I read that they only appear in about 1 in several million deer.


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I would admire but let walk either whitetail specimens each. Might try to get a pic to show the other hunters I work with and my family..

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Yes, I’d shoot one for its hide and would tan it hair on. We have quite a few piebald blacktail deer in NW Washington State. I’ve seen at least 15 and maybe 20 of them over the past 25 years plus one pure all white one, though it was not an albino and had a black nose and dark eyes. Whatcom and Skagit counties have some white genes as do Jefferson and Clallam on the Penninsula and Orcas Island.

I saw a pair of twin piebald/Appaloosa marked fawns last week a mile from our house, getting close to yearlings and still with their mother. If they were extremely rare here I’d pass. Saw one partly white deer in Southern California some 50 years ago, Ventura County.

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don't care what color it's hide is , brown grey piebald albino if its legal and offers a killing shooters dead

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I saw one piebald spike on my lease this past year. He had a big blonde patch on the top of his head. I decided not to whack him and let him grow to see how he turns out.


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Had him the scope at maybe 15-20 yards as he and some Does crossed a trail, but didn’t and dug the camera out as he walked into the brush

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Glad I let him walk.

Addition: Saw him again later in the season crossing an open field at dark. It was like watching a ghost.



Trying to pick him out on a cell phone screen is like watching a ghost too.



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Originally Posted by Mike78
I would not shoot one just because it was an albino or piebald, but being piebald or albino wouldn't be the reason to keep me from shooting it.


Same here. It's a genetic trait that makes the deer lees likely to survive and procreate in the wild anyway. Probably best for the herd in the long run to remove them from the population.



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I learned long ago not to pass up a good shot at a legal deer be it buck or doe. The myth is that it brings bad luck to shoot a piebald deer but I don't believe it at all.

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Never had to make the decision. If I ever run into one , I’ll make the decision whether to shoot or not like every other time. Hasbeen


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Late 1980's my buddies property had a piebald doe running around. It was about 90% pure white with a few dark patches. My buddy called it "the albino" and thought it was cool. I could only hunt on his land if I promised not to shoot "the albino". Then; sure enough at first light one morning I had it standing still and broadside to me at no more than 25 yards. Even had a doe tag for that area but at least it was cool to watch it for a few minutes before it wandered off. Then a couple weeks later it got killed down on the highway at the bottom of his hill. Too bad one of us didn't harvest it during deer season. The hide would have been neat to have tanned.

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I'd pass. Not because of some superstition, but just because they're such a rare sight. Where I used to quail hunt, there was one. I saw it often, and looked forward to seeing it. Something you don't soon forget.

That's just me. I'm just sentimental about such things. I wouldn't condemn anyone else for taking any legal deer legally and ethically.


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I haven’t read through this whole thing but I really don’t get this aversion to shooting one. It’s a just genetic color abnormality. Why not? It’s actually good for the herd to remove the trait in the long run.

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Interesting thread here; and it reminded me of a herd of white deer that lives on the grounds of the old Seneca Army Depot in the Finger Lakes region of NY State, southeast of Geneva NY. Place got fenced in about 1941 and some white deer that were there gradually became the dominant strain and today there's a whole herd of them still fenced in. They say they aren't true albinos because true albinos have pink eyes. There's a group that has a web site about them at: www.senecawhitedeer.org

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Interesting thread here; and it reminded me of a herd of white deer that lives on the grounds of the old Seneca Army Depot in the Finger Lakes region of NY State, southeast of Geneva NY. Place got fenced in about 1941 and some white deer that were there gradually became the dominant strain and today there's a whole herd of them still fenced in. They say they aren't true albinos because true albinos have pink eyes. There's a group that has a web site about them at: www.senecawhitedeer.org

Wow, cool.

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I found another pic of our albino doe with a friend. Like Cariboujack posted…sometimes it’s better to just appreciate.

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Probly 30 years ago, in NY southern tier, I had a piebald spike horn come off the hill in front of me. Would have been an easy standing shot. I passed, not because of the spikes, but I figured it’s unusual and I’d like to run into him again. Thought it was a goat coming through the woods at first.

Unfortunately, another member of our party wasn’t as impressed by the piebald coloring. He shot at it but didn’t think he hit it. Turns out that he did and we found the carcass a few days later. Even now I don’t think I’d shoot one.

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If you do "the Hoodoo will put the voodoo" on you!!!! Way too pretty to look at for me, couldn't do it ( and I ain't scared of the Devil himself!) lol

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A buddy of mine shot a 10 point 180 lb buck in Maine that was piebald. Had an odd body, not in proportion. A couple wardens came over to camp to see it and thanked him for killing it before it bred.

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Yes, I would shoot a piebald deer, given the opportunity.


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I don't think piebald is all that uncommon. On the battlefields at Yorktown, Va, I've seen quite a few, one with a white belly that wraps around both sides so the deer only has a brown stripe down its back connecting its brown shoulders and rump. I guess they just pass the piebald gene around.

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Just me,
But I do not think I would, unless it was wounded or sick.
And legal to do so.
To each his own.



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Only if it stood still….

Used to see white ones near Dulles Airport when I was working and along 15 near Leesburg.


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Nope, don’t really care to kill anymore.


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Originally Posted by 22250rem
Interesting thread here; and it reminded me of a herd of white deer that lives on the grounds of the old Seneca Army Depot in the Finger Lakes region of NY State, southeast of Geneva NY. Place got fenced in about 1941 and some white deer that were there gradually became the dominant strain and today there's a whole herd of them still fenced in. They say they aren't true albinos because true albinos have pink eyes. There's a group that has a web site about them at: www.senecawhitedeer.org

Seen them a bunch of times driving up to Belhurst. Did a double take the first time I saw four white deer feeding right off the side of the road.


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a pure albino deer should be shot they can carry diseases and don`t have good enough genes to fight of sicknesses as easy either. i would never eat a albino anything. you want a healthy deer heard you shot these inferior deer period .


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I've shot a couple of piebalds and would do so again given the opportunity. Everything I've read states it's caused by inbreeding and those I've shot had shorter legs and goat like appearances. Don't want or need them in a healthy deer population.

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