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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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He'd should stop advocating for the vaccines period. It's bad enough that the left won't shut up about it.

People are way beyond their saturation point of being lectured to about the damn vaccine.

The fact that Trump believes there's a political advantage to continue doing so makes him seem extremely obtuse.

I don’t see it as him “advocating” for it… he was ASKED a question… he answered it… the vaccines are working exactly as they were designed…. Nobody has ever said you couldn’t catch the virus after being vaccinated….only that it gave your immune system a heads up of what to look for and give it a head start at fighting it before it could overwhelm your system….I agree we’re all beyond the saturation point of being lectured to about both covid AND the vaccines, but did it ever occur to you that the liberals know this and push this narrative as a wedge issue???

To be honest, for quite a number of months the powers that be declared the vax had a 95% efficacy at PREVENTING a covid infection.

That number is now a lot closer to 0% than it is 95%.

But I am happy that the shot does minimize symptoms and severity of the virus.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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He'd should stop advocating for the vaccines period. It's bad enough that the left won't shut up about it.

People are way beyond their saturation point of being lectured to about the damn vaccine.

The fact that Trump believes there's a political advantage to continue doing so makes him seem extremely obtuse.

I don’t see it as him “advocating” for it… he was ASKED a question… he answered it… the vaccines are working exactly as they were designed…. Nobody has ever said you couldn’t catch the virus after being vaccinated….only that it gave your immune system a heads up of what to look for and give it a head start at fighting it before it could overwhelm your system….I agree we’re all beyond the saturation point of being lectured to about both covid AND the vaccines, but did it ever occur to you that the liberals know this and push this narrative as a wedge issue???


Nope.

That wasn’t the message a year ago. That’s what the message has sort of morphed into.

In fact, that’s the reason CDC changed the very definition of “vaccine” to continue calling this injection a vaccine.



95% effective was the claim early on...they've been twisting and changing their claims and words all along.


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The mNRA vaccine they tested fir animals year ago was plagued with so many problems it was abandoned. Then suddenly they produce 1 and put it out to the public in less than a year and call it safe with the years of trials they normally go through.
No way was I believe that BS



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Originally Posted by bruinruin
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Middlefork_Miner
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Didn't mention him by name eh?


He'd should stop advocating for the vaccines period. It's bad enough that the left won't shut up about it.

People are way beyond their saturation point of being lectured to about the damn vaccine.

The fact that Trump believes there's a political advantage to continue doing so makes him seem extremely obtuse.

I don’t see it as him “advocating” for it… he was ASKED a question… he answered it… the vaccines are working exactly as they were designed…. Nobody has ever said you couldn’t catch the virus after being vaccinated….only that it gave your immune system a heads up of what to look for and give it a head start at fighting it before it could overwhelm your system….I agree we’re all beyond the saturation point of being lectured to about both covid AND the vaccines, but did it ever occur to you that the liberals know this and push this narrative as a wedge issue???


Nope.

That wasn’t the message a year ago. That’s what the message has sort of morphed into.

In fact, that’s the reason CDC changed the very definition of “vaccine” to continue calling this injection a vaccine.



95% effective was the claim early on...they've been twisting and changing their claims and words all along.



Exactly 💯



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Didn't mention him by name eh?


He'd should stop advocating for the vaccines period. It's bad enough that the left won't shut up about it.

People are way beyond their saturation point of being lectured to about the damn vaccine.

The fact that Trump believes there's a political advantage to continue doing so makes him seem extremely obtuse.


Not to half of the "conservatives" here.


It would be an interesting poll.

"Should Trump push for the vaccine booster?"






You mean the vaccine that's not a vaccine? That one? The one that doesn't protect you or anyone else from anything?


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Even Pfizer's CEO is backtracking.

Pfizer CEO Bourla says COVID vaccines offer limited protection ‘if any’, adds third dose gives less protection against infection

https://www.opindia.com/2022/01/pfizer-ceo-albert-burla-coronavirus-vaccine-protection/


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Yes its conveniently forgotten that across the world both left and right wing leaders were all in lock-step in throwing their constitutions in the trash, torching their economies and pushing the vaccines. To believe covid or the vaccine is a scam means logically whoever was in power at the time was part of it . It also means the whole left vs right wing schtick is a sham too.

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Originally Posted by 158XTP
Yes its conveniently forgotten that across the world both left and right wing leaders were all in lock-step in throwing their constitutions in the trash, torching their economies and pushing the vaccines. To believe covid or the vaccine is a scam means logically whoever was in power at the time was part of it . It also means the whole left vs right wing schtick is a sham too.

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You have long been one of the 'fire's most vocal Trump critics, continually finding fault with him while claiming to be a conservative Republican. Shame on you.


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Originally Posted by pal
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You have long been one of the 'fire's most vocal Trump critics, continually finding fault with him while claiming to be a conservative Republican. Shame on you.


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Originally Posted by pal
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You have long been one of the 'fire's most vocal Trump critics, continually finding fault with him while claiming to be a conservative Republican. Shame on you.


Cults of personality never got people anywhere.

The Pres brought some great ideas to the table but he also had faults that deserve being called out. His willingness to go along with totalitarian vaccine obsession is one of them.


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You have long been one of the 'fire's most vocal Trump critics, continually finding fault with him while claiming to be a conservative Republican. Shame on you.
Cults of personality never got people anywhere.

The Pres brought some great ideas to the table but he also had faults that deserve being called out. His willingness to go along with totalitarian vaccine obsession is one of them.

Yep.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by pal
Originally Posted by Bristoe


You have long been one of the 'fire's most vocal Trump critics, continually finding fault with him while claiming to be a conservative Republican. Shame on you.
Cults of personality never got people anywhere.

The Pres brought some great ideas to the table but he also had faults that deserve being called out. His willingness to go along with totalitarian vaccine obsession is one of them.

Yep.

Double yep.


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