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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: 260Remguy] #16727327 12/15/21
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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
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Winchester 101 Grand European?

Nothing from Russia. The IZH-94 that I had was heavy junk.

Simpson, LTD, in Galesburg, IL, imports firearms from Europe by the container load and regularly advertises combination guns and drillings.


I have one that was marketed by Remington many years ago as the SPR-94.
Is nothing more than a Baikal IZH-94 223/12ga. it actually shoots quite well, it is a bit heavy but the big down side is the 10# triggers. and I cant find a gunsmith that wants to touch the triggers.

Picked up a Baikal IZH-94 308/12ga a couple years ago for a good deal.............WOW what a POS. at 40yds the rifle and shotgun were 5 feet apart in point of impact, unloaded it as fast as possible !!!!!!


They were easy to regulate. I had a 12/7X57R years ago I regulated to throw a Brenneke slug within 3" of where the rifle grouped at 70 yards




The IZH-94 that I had in 12 over 6.5x55 wouldn'shoot worth a damn. The guy who bought it from me knew that he could make it shoot, but he was wrong. He was so frustrated by it that he bought a second one that he found to be equally inaccurate.


With real trigger discipline I could get the 7X57R to shoot 5 in an inch at 100 yards with my reloads. I had one in 30-06 for a short time that would shoot 1 1/2-2 inch groups with factory ammo. Someone wanted it more than I did, so it went away before I sorted it out. A friend also had a 7X57R that shot very well.

FWIW I had a Rem Classic 35 Whelen that couldn't keep them in a washtub at 100 yards no matter what I tried, so there are clunkers made from time to time.

The two real faults of the IZH-94 were Awful triggers and weight.

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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: erich] #16730829 12/16/21
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Seriously on a combo gun two triggers are the way to go, you never have to deal with a barrel selector, with two triggers you always have the weapon ready whether you want to use the rifle or shotgun. I can't see any situation where a single trigger would be better than two, please enlighten me.


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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: roninflag] #16734514 12/17/21
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I suggest you think about how you will use this gun. I use mine for deer hunting, and for small game hunting. When we have concurrent turkey and deer seasons, it is my companion when I am in areas where I can use rifles, i'm set with shot and rifle. In deer only, buckshot and rifle. I rarely carry it for predators. So I need a perfect fit of the stock for bird hunting. It also needs to be lightweight and swing smoothly. For my predator and big game hunting perfect fit is less important. So give thought to how you hunt and what you hunt.
Where I live now centerfire rifles are not legal for hunting deer or bears, so my Savage 24 gets more field time.
As to triggers, choose what you prefer. I've used single and double trigger guns for more than 60 years. I don't like double triggers. I don't think I have ever shot both barrels in succession with my combinations, as I do with double rifles or double shotguns. For me rifle shooting is precision work, shotgunning is instinctive. For me I am carrying two singleshots.
I've sorted out that for me fit is more important than caliber.
Just my thoughts on what has worked for me. Others here have very different experiences and other perspectives.
Good luck on your search.
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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: boatanchor] #16741136 12/19/21
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Originally Posted by boatanchor
Picked up a Baikal IZH-94 308/12ga a couple years ago for a good deal.............WOW what a POS. at 40yds the rifle and shotgun were 5 feet apart in point of impact, unloaded it as fast as possible !!!!!!


Don't know why you did that===> Would have made a Great Boat Anchor!

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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: roninflag] #16747408 12/21/21
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If you want a practical gun, Blaser is the clear winner. They manage to have fantastic triggers, even with the dual lock models - no set trigger required. The only problem is that they're not exactly the prettiest guns around and the shroud between the barrels is rubber, not metal. The Merkels I personally don't like as the triggers are quite close together and access to the rear trigger isn't all that great, the K5 is a fantastic single shot, though and better than the K95 imo. Heym's 26 is the more traditional option having silver soldered barrels, but sporting a single trigger, with Heym you know that you are getting all the gun your money can buy. 25% of the price of a Blaser goes into their marketing campaigns. The Heym single trigger has also been getting better in the past few years. If you want soul, get something old, preferrably Merkel, but know that scope mounting, barrel regulation and climbing shots can be a real pain and might have you spend twice of what you first intended.


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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: Boomer454] #16754496 12/22/21
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Originally Posted by Boomer454
If you want a practical gun, Blaser is the clear winner. They manage to have fantastic triggers, even with the dual lock models - no set trigger required. The only problem is that they're not exactly the prettiest guns around and the shroud between the barrels is rubber, not metal. The Merkels I personally don't like as the triggers are quite close together and access to the rear trigger isn't all that great, the K5 is a fantastic single shot, though and better than the K95 imo. Heym's 26 is the more traditional option having silver soldered barrels, but sporting a single trigger, with Heym you know that you are getting all the gun your money can buy. 25% of the price of a Blaser goes into their marketing campaigns. The Heym single trigger has also been getting better in the past few years. If you want soul, get something old, preferrably Merkel, but know that scope mounting, barrel regulation and climbing shots can be a real pain and might have you spend twice of what you first intended.


Simsons are Merkels for 1/2 the price on the used market.


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Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: roninflag] #16757358 12/23/21
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i have a savage model 24D in 22mag/ 20 gauge . it has served me well for over 50 years .... harvested a lot of game including a huge gould's and several merriam turkey. coyotes and fox, ducks. quail..... the reason i want a combo is bear season is open in spring along with turkey ,. there are some big ones in the units i hunt.

Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: erich] #16785859 12/31/21
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Originally Posted by erich
Seriously on a combo gun two triggers are the way to go, you never have to deal with a barrel selector, with two triggers you always have the weapon ready whether you want to use the rifle or shotgun. I can't see any situation where a single trigger would be better than two, please enlighten me.

It would be 2 Oz lighter than a double trigger.


Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: roninflag] #16834239 01/13/22
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I have a Savage 24V wood stock in .223 over 20 gauge also, I use it for coyote hunting in PA, so far 2 down both with the 20 gauge believe it or not.

Re: i am shopping for a combo rifle/shotgun [Re: roninflag] #16834326 01/13/22
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"Savage made a few 12ga 24V guns just before going to the "F" series. The 12ga 24V is a rare gun, but they were made."

I bought my gun new and the paperwork says V. I save all such records and still have the paperwork.




About one or two triggers?
All my sxs double shotguns have 2 triggers. Same for double rifles.
However, for the application of the 24V, the selection of barrels has never been a problem. After some use, it becomes automatic and rarely needs to be hurried. This may boil down to personal choice and that is how it should be.


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That’s true about the market prices being way down on drillings. Now s the time to buy not sell drillings.

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