24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 12 of 16 1 2 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839492 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
B
battue Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
Ok the Creedmoor rules for now. What will be the next big thing were multiple posters will be asking....Why does the NBT get more attention than the 6.5 Creedmore. It will happen and then the Creedmore guys who are going over the hill, will be on the defensive and saying, I shot everything from mice to Bull Moose with my Creed. The NBT doesn't interest me.


laissez les bons temps rouler
BP-B2

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: battue] #16839550 01/14/22
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Jordan Smith Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Originally Posted by battue
Ok the Creedmoor rules for now. What will be the next big thing were multiple posters will be asking....Why does the NBT get more attention than the 6.5 Creedmore. It will happen and then the Creedmore guys who are going over the hill, will be on the defensive and saying, I shot everything from mice to Bull Moose with my Creed. The NBT doesn't interest me.

Interested or not, the ability to recognize objective technical advantages separates the logical from the emotional.

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Jordan Smith] #16839564 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,218
Sakoluvr Offline OP
Campfire 'Bwana
OP Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,218
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by battue
Ok the Creedmoor rules for now. What will be the next big thing were multiple posters will be asking....Why does the NBT get more attention than the 6.5 Creedmore. It will happen and then the Creedmore guys who are going over the hill, will be on the defensive and saying, I shot everything from mice to Bull Moose with my Creed. The NBT doesn't interest me.

Interested or not, the ability to recognize objective technical advantages separates the logical from the emotional.


Bingo!

And it's fun to shoot a bunch of rounds per session. Another major attribute.


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839628 01/14/22
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 6,472
B
Bugger Offline
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 6,472
The name Creedmoor is great for sales and it gives writers something new to write about. 22 Creedmoor, 25 Creedmoor, 6mm Creedmoor, I suppose there’s a 27 and a 28 Creedmoor too.
The 30 Creedmoor came out in about 1920 I believe.
The 6.5 Creedmoor is a well designed cartridge, I’ll give it that.
But as MD and others might expect: I consider factory ammo as a last resort for supplying brass.
I like some new cartridges but I really like the classic cartridges.


Life member NRA
I prefer classic.
Member of the VVA - Semper Fi
I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise.
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Jordan Smith] #16839673 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
B
battue Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by battue
Ok the Creedmoor rules for now. What will be the next big thing were multiple posters will be asking....Why does the NBT get more attention than the 6.5 Creedmore. It will happen and then the Creedmore guys who are going over the hill, will be on the defensive and saying, I shot everything from mice to Bull Moose with my Creed. The NBT doesn't interest me.

Interested or not, the ability to recognize objective technical advantages separates the logical from the emotional.


While accurate, that has little to do with the question. In that the NBT should have objective technical advantages-as the Creedmore now exhibits-and those who cling to the Creedmore will be unwilling to acknowledge them due to being stuck in the past.

I do find it humorous that the Creedmore threads repeatedly churn out the same info and reasons, often by the same responders..and while accurate it is the rifle question equivalent of Groundhog Day.



Last edited by battue; 01/14/22.

laissez les bons temps rouler
IC-A

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: battue] #16839731 01/14/22
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 33,751
S
smokepole Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
S
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 33,751
No it's not. It's more like deja vu all over again.



A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: battue] #16839810 01/14/22
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
M
Mule Deer Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
[/quote]While accurate, that has little to do with the question. In that the NBT should have objective technical advantages-as the Creedmore now exhibits-and those who cling to the Creedmore will be unwilling to acknowledge them due to being stuck in the past.

I do find it humorous that the Creedmore threads repeatedly churn out the same info and reasons, often by the same responders..and while accurate it is the rifle question equivalent of Groundhog Day. [/quote]

Perhaps--but not any more than anti-Creedmoor posters saying essentially the same thing over and over again: "I don't see the reason for the 6.5 Creedmoor, so don't want one, and don't see why anybody would want one." Which is what gets posted over and over again, often to start a new thread--and what's essentially happened here, once again.

I posted earlier, in another thread, that a lot of Campfire posts simply state a "I don't like it," with no real reason given, whether the subject is the 6.5 Creedmoor, Ballistic Tips, Ruger American Rifles, etc. etc. It's as if a Campfire post is a vote, and if enough members post an "I don't like it," then the 6.5 Creedmoor (or Nosler Ballistic Tips or Ruger American Rifles) will be outlawed, or at the very least banned on the Campfire.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: smokepole] #16839814 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
B
battue Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
Well..."Scope my Creed...Will be used for mostly Woodland Deer under 100 yards with the occasional power line opportunity out to 400-500"


laissez les bons temps rouler
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Mule Deer] #16839837 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
B
battue Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
I don't have one and probably never will. However, the advantages you and others have stated can't be denied. And yes, the deja vu, runs both ways...


laissez les bons temps rouler
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839857 01/14/22
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
M
Mule Deer Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
Though as I noted, threads are far more often started by a Creedmoor doubter, than a CM fan.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
IC-B

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: battue] #16839883 01/14/22
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Jordan Smith Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by battue
Ok the Creedmoor rules for now. What will be the next big thing were multiple posters will be asking....Why does the NBT get more attention than the 6.5 Creedmore. It will happen and then the Creedmore guys who are going over the hill, will be on the defensive and saying, I shot everything from mice to Bull Moose with my Creed. The NBT doesn't interest me.

Interested or not, the ability to recognize objective technical advantages separates the logical from the emotional.


While accurate, that has little to do with the question. In that the NBT should have objective technical advantages-as the Creedmore now exhibits-and those who cling to the Creedmore will be unwilling to acknowledge them due to being stuck in the past.


You're definitely not wrong.

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839891 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
B
battue Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,166
I frequently think about the reason many threads are started....And often think learning something is down on the list....


laissez les bons temps rouler
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839964 01/14/22
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 15,872
B
Blackheart Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
B
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 15,872
It would probably be tough to make a living as a gun writer if gun nuts weren't such an emotional, sentimental lot that wanted to keep reading about their favorite dusty old cartridges over and over for 100 years.

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16839985 01/14/22
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,298
G
GRF Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,298
I'm late to this conversation. I don't and haven't had a 6.5 CM; in the family (meaning I handload for it if I don't own it) we have in the functional range of the 6.5 CM; .243, 6.5 x50, .260, 6.5x55, 6.5 PRC, .270, 7-08, 7x57, .280 AI.

However I most heartily recommend the 6.5 CM to new shooters for all the positive reasons listed above by Brad, Puddle, Mule Deer, Jordan and others. Well thought and designed, firearms and ammunition well executed. To paraphrase my friend Jordan when physics and emotional response get in conflict physics always wins.

Who the fornication cares about marketing, old school vs new school, gayness or other BS. The cartridge works. If it cranks your tractor rock on, if it does not find something that does and rock one.

I spent a couple of hours this PM sorting out 50 rounds of handholds for a son's 6.5x50 Arasaka, with the modified chrysanthimum denoting use in schools as a training rifle and the dust shield in place . Not practical, modern or in my opinion well thought out and executed, but its fun so enjoy and rock on.

For 99.9% of us the gun game is just [bleep] and giggles, lets not get too spun out. smile

Hope y'all have a good weekend.

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Blackheart] #16840018 01/14/22
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 54,583
R
rost495 Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
R
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 54,583
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Partsman
Because people are coming out of the closet, the 7/08 is less gay.
I thought the 7/08 was pretty dang ghey when it came out and gave it a great big yawn. I've never changed my mind.

That would be your department to know about


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: GRF] #16840080 01/14/22
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Jordan Smith Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 12,834
Originally Posted by GRF
I'm late to this conversation. I don't and haven't had a 6.5 CM; in the family (meaning I handload for it if I don't own it) we have in the functional range of the 6.5 CM; .243, 6.5 x50, .260, 6.5x55, 6.5 PRC, .270, 7-08, 7x57, .280 AI.

However I most heartily recommend the 6.5 CM to new shooters for all the positive reasons listed above by Brad, Puddle, Mule Deer, Jordan and others. Well thought and designed, firearms and ammunition well executed. To paraphrase my friend Jordan when physics and emotional response get in conflict physics always wins.

Who the fornication cares about marketing, old school vs new school, gayness or other BS. The cartridge works. If it cranks your tractor rock on, if it does not find something that does and rock one.

I spent a couple of hours this PM sorting out 50 rounds of handholds for a son's 6.5x50 Arasaka, with the modified chrysanthimum denoting use in schools as a training rifle and the dust shield in place . Not practical, modern or in my opinion well thought out and executed, but its fun so enjoy and rock on.

For 99.9% of us the gun game is just [bleep] and giggles, lets not get too spun out. smile

Hope y'all have a good weekend.

Well said, George!

Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Jordan Smith] #16840244 01/14/22
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
M
Mule Deer Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
Yep, well said!


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16840634 01/14/22
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 3,720
WAM Offline
Campfire Guide
Offline
Campfire Guide
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 3,720
I’ve never seriously considered either one. The up side to building new cartridges and rifles is that it keeps the firearms manufacturer(s) in business long enough to build rifles in your favorite chambering. Rock on, indeed.


Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16840726 01/14/22
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 6,472
B
Bugger Offline
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 6,472
I don’t hate the cartridge and I think it is a good cartridge for new shooters that don’t reload and are recoil shy.
If I were to get a 6.5 cartridge of any chambering I’d have to add to my collection of bullets. I’d have buy new molds etc. And the cartridge doesn’t fill any void for me.

My only 6.5 was a 264 Win Mag that I got that sometime maybe 55 years ago. The only bullet that I thought was worthy of game animals then was the Nosler bullets that came in the yellow boxes. I ended up using the rifle as a crow and varmint rifle. I thought I already had the best game cartridge - the 30-06. I sold the 264 due to school costs.

I think naming the new cartridges something something Creedmoor is just a sales gimmick that I will stick to.

Saying that I would rather have a 6.5x55 means I hate the 6.5 Creedmoor.

You can love it all you want, it’s ok with me.

But I can have my favorites too.

Last edited by Bugger; 01/14/22.

Life member NRA
I prefer classic.
Member of the VVA - Semper Fi
I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise.
Re: So JB, why does the 6.5 CM get more attention than the 7mm-08? [Re: Sakoluvr] #16840770 01/14/22
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
M
Mule Deer Offline
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 53,780
Bugger,

You just re-confirmed all the points a bunch of the points several of us have made in this thread--and others.

Sorry,
John


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Page 12 of 16 1 2 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Moderated by  RickBin, SYSOP 

RR1
Who's Online Now
385 registered members (06hunter59, 163dm, 19rabbit52, 19352012, 16penny, 10gaugemag, 48 invisible), 1,950 guests, and 794 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
RR2/3

Forum Statistics
Forums78
Topics1,064,975
Posts16,148,912
Members69,435
Most Online9,977
Aug 3rd, 2021









Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.071s Queries: 15 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8988 MB (Peak: 1.0610 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2022-01-23 06:26:46 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS