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Originally Posted by Clarkm
My 3 Ruger revolvers are not as good as my smiths and colts.

My 2 Ruger semi auto pistols, I have no complaints.

My 2 Ruger 10/22s are better than most of the old 22 semi autos I have bought at pawn shops over 30 years.

My 3 Ruger #1 rifles are so well designed, they astound me.



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The 10/22 shoots well with a new barrel and a new trigger................that is like... you don't sweat much, for a fat girl.


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Originally Posted by Clarkm
The 10/22 shoots well with a new barrel and a new trigger................that is like... you don't sweat much, for a fat girl.


Mine shoots extremely well just as it came from the factory.


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I don’t consider him such. A brilliant man no doubt but he mainly worked to streamline manufacturing methods via the lost wax casting process. He brought out some great products at the right time but I don’t see any truly new and innovative designs that he was responsible for creating from scratch like Browning.

We have both to thank for their contributions no doubt but I don’t consider them equals.


+1 Ruger had cost in mind and was a "Value" designer. Except for the ruger no 1 and he copied designs from others.
Browning was design first and worry about what it costs later,

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Ruger made accurate, very strong revolvers that were a value at the time. The transfer bar firing system for the single actions made them safer.



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Sorry but Bill Ruger wouldn't have made a pimple of John Browning's azz....

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Originally Posted by jwp475

Ruger made accurate, very strong revolvers that were a value at the time. The transfer bar firing system for the single actions made them safer.



Gotta disagree.
Ever have a 45 Colt?
There would no shame to have made them with bad throats in the 60's, even 70s. By the 80's people knew that they needed to be a bit bigger, but not
too big. Cottage industries sprung up fixing what Ruger kept fücking up.

But the one I bought in the 90's? No better.

The one from about 2012? Same.

WTF is up with an outfit that does this. Sure, an American can't be Tikka at
$300. But holy [bleep], just cut the dam reamers to the right size. And maybe try to use them
In permanent matched sets so that all 6 are close in size.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Browning designed and built all kind of guns, many still relevant.
Best of my knowledge, he never said stupid Shït like,

Our guns are hunting guns, not target guns. They are accurate enough.
The triggers are good enough. (Paraphrased, and condensed)



Also don't think he refused to sell any models to civilians, or limited ammo
capacity to civilians.

I see Ruger as an arrogant was. He was at the helm for the years of using
substandard barrels. But he ran them out the door. Screwing customers.
He had some good designs, but sure wasn't very particular about his
products. He is gone, and I bet they still screw up 45Colt throats.

Ironically, there are more of his product in my safe than any other brand.


Agree, except only one Ruger in my safes, and that’s plenty. Have owned and sold many that were mediocre at best.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by jwp475

Ruger made accurate, very strong revolvers that were a value at the time. The transfer bar firing system for the single actions made them safer.



Gotta disagree.
Ever have a 45 Colt?
There would no shame to have made them with bad throats in the 60's, even 70s. By the 80's people knew that they needed to be a bit bigger, but not
too big. Cottage industries sprung up fixing what Ruger kept fücking up.

But the one I bought in the 90's? No better.

The one from about 2012? Same.

WTF is up with an outfit that does this. Sure, an American can't be Tikka at
$300. But holy [bleep], just cut the dam reamers to the right size. And maybe try to use them
In permanent matched sets so that all 6 are close in size.


I certainly have owned a 45 colt in a Ruger Bisley. More than one in fact. About 3 or 4 times less money than a Colt. Undersized cylinder throats are a easy fix

Took a lot of game with mine, including the longest shot I've ever made on an animal



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Like mine too.

But they sell them as working guns. Not kits.
Pretty sad they can't get something so easy, right.
No way in heck something like that would go out with my
name engraved on it. Not asking for pre war hand work, just
maintain decent dimensional tolerances.


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Originally Posted by jwp475

I certainly have owned a 45 colt in a Ruger Bisley. More than one in fact. About 3 or 4 times less money than a Colt. Undersized cylinder throats are a easy fix

Took a lot of game with mine, including the longest shot I've ever made on an animal


Jist how fer a shot you make with that thar Bisley....

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Poor quality, cheap barrels were used in Bill's day, Ruger barrels used today are far better than the Old ruger rifle barrels. Gorgeous wood on those first #1's and a $19 barrel. He should have been buying barrels from Savage at that time.

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I have read that at least part of the Mark .22 pistol design was inspired by the Japanese Nambu.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Clarkm
The 10/22 shoots well with a new barrel and a new trigger................that is like... you don't sweat much, for a fat girl.


Mine shoots extremely well just as it came from the factory.


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jwp475:
Good morning to you sir, I hope the weekend was a good one for you and this finds you and those who you care about well.

Thanks for putting up that photo, it's a nice piece of wood they used on a unique stock! cool

Can I ask if it was a Lipsey's run or something similar? I've never seen one like that up across the medicine line that I can recall.

Thanks in advance and all the best in the week ahead.

Dwayne


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Clarkm
The 10/22 shoots well with a new barrel and a new trigger................that is like... you don't sweat much, for a fat girl.


Mine shoots extremely well just as it came from the factory.


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Ruger sure put the ugly on a nice piece of wood.....

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i have plenty Rugers and Brownings in my safe ,but i still prefer my Ruger #1 to hunt with for larger whitetail and mule deer bucks . if Ruger #1 `s have such poor wood why are they so high on resale ?


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I have a 1986 Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt I got used for $300 in 2004.
I have fired one shot in 18 years.
24 gr H110, 250 gr JHP... the same as for my other 45 Colt revolvers and rifle.

Recoil caused the sharp edges on the back of the hammer cut into the web of my hand.

So far I have not got around to taking the Ruger apart and finishing the machining.


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I have a Ruger Red Label 20 ga that I got new around 1981. It did not take a case of shells and when you hit the release latch the barrels would hit you in the shin. I have a Browning O/U 20 ga that has seen way more action that the Ruger ever has and it is still tight as a drum.


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Originally Posted by BC30cal
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Clarkm
The 10/22 shoots well with a new barrel and a new trigger................that is like... you don't sweat much, for a fat girl.


Mine shoots extremely well just as it came from the factory.


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jwp475:
Good morning to you sir, I hope the weekend was a good one for you and this finds you and those who you care about well.

Thanks for putting up that photo, it's a nice piece of wood they used on a unique stock! cool

Can I ask if it was a Lipsey's run or something similar? I've never seen one like that up across the medicine line that I can recall.

Thanks in advance and all the best in the week ahead.

Dwayne


Dwayne, I don't know if this was a Lipsey or not. I saw it in a LGS in Ohio and bought it



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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Like mine too.

But they sell them as working guns. Not kits.
Pretty sad they can't get something so easy, right.
No way in heck something like that would go out with my
name engraved on it. Not asking for pre war hand work, just
maintain decent dimensional tolerances.


This is indicative of the Ruger business model. He made guns to sell, not to shoot. If you were lucky, you did get a shooter, but they never left the factory as a shooter.


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