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Simply stated; it sheds petals

Yet when other monometals do that, they're complete and utter failures. Or so I've read. I've recovered bullets from a competitor that did the same thing. Like viking, I too am trying to figure out what these do so much better than alternatives. They may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but there must be more to it than just shedding petals. Please expound.


From what I remember reading and seeing on gel test videos, after the petals are shed, the remaining shank has a flatter nose which causes more trauma than a rounder nose.

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For those who want to know about Hammer bullets and how to load them, go to their website and the info is there or email/ call the owners and they will help you get started. “ Just a hunter” pm me for 308 151 & 162 AH loads…..

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Originally Posted by cooperfan
Great information

For whatever reason hammer bullets are rarely discussed on the campfire

Maybe cost and lack of familiarity.

Not .308, but .358 Win, I killed a WT this season with the 178 gr. Hammer out of my Pre-64 .358 Win.

I sent photos of chest damage to Hammer by email and got a nice reply from Steve Davis, pointing out the exit wound with satellite exits around the core exit. I had not noticed. Steve knew what he was seeing. There was the core exit with six satellite exit wounds that I had not noticed.

Some don't like bullets that frag, they weigh projectiles for retained weight. The frag pieces add to tissue damage which is what kills. And, not too unlike Partitions, the core bores on thru.

I like Barnes; I like Hammer better. Both are accurate. If I was shooting DG with my .375 H&H, it would be hard to beat the 270 TSX based on reputation. But, I'm sure Hammer would have their version for such application. I think Barnes, because they work and have been around for a long time, are more in the mainstream. Just don't discount Hammer. They're coming on strong. They have my attention.

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Not sure I’m all in on fragmenting bullets for hunting. That’s one of the reasons I like Barnes. They generally stay together and exit. A fair sized chunk of copper can wreck a meat grinder or tenderizer I’m told. The jury’s out on this one.


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Originally Posted by WAM
Not sure I’m all in on fragmenting bullets for hunting. That’s one of the reasons I like Barnes. They generally stay together and exit. A fair sized chunk of copper can wreck a meat grinder or tenderizer I’m told. The jury’s out on this one.


I used the 220 Hammer Hunter this year in my 35 Whelen on 3 deer 🦌 and 1 hog. All exited with massive damage. The hog was going away and the bullet entered the left side just in front of the hip and exited the right shoulder. Weight of hog 225 to 250



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The admonition to run monos light and fast could be a bit different with those that frag. They may not need to be pushed at hyper vel to perform. And maybe heavier ones can perform at less than max speeds.

Interesting.

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After being in on well over 100 elk kills, I have found that the Nosler PT, will "never " let you down. For longer ranges the AB has performed well.

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next fall son and myself will be using only Hammer bullets these bullets have impressed me. after last fall`s 2021 season with another brand of bullets that did not preformed very well the last 2 years , i have already purchased 300 Hammer bullets and just might buy a few more boxes for the future. give them a try you will like them !

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I have bought some as well. I think I'll be using them too. Spring bear in Montana and Fall hunt there for deer and elk.
I have a lesser grain weight for my 308 Win. and the 181 for my 300 Win. Mag.
(Maybe) Going to order anther barrel in .308 caliber in 1~9 or a 1~8 twist. Wait to see how my 1~10 twist shoots the 181 grain Hammer Hunter.

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I'm going to workup some 160HH and 199SH for my 300 WM pretty soon. right now, I still have to get a load set up for the 175 LRX. Love the 300!!! smile

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I can't get my head around a 612 yard shot.


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Originally Posted by Gojoe
I can't get my head around a 612 yard shot.


I'm certainly not comfortable with anything over about 375, even then, it has to be an animal I "really want", to last day of the hunt kinda thingy. I normally hunt terrain that I don't "have" to shoot past 250, I can usually get closer. My average on elk (4 cows so far, love to eat them!) is 171 yards,

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I may be a little late here but I've had great success with Hammers. I've shot them in my 280AI, 308, 300wsm, 300 HH and most recently the 92 hammer in my Kimber Montana 25-06. The 152 hammer hunter has been the bullet in my 30 cal rifles. Never killed anything with the 308 but if I remember right I was getting close to 2900 fps with varget. The 300 wsm is pushing them at 3350 fps with outstanding accuracy in my Kimber Montana. Killed a cow elk with it at 70 yards. The 300 HH is producing 3250 fps with the 152 Hammer Hunter in an old Remington 700 Classic. Put a nice buck down at 180 yards in Texas last November. They are a little spendy but are always in stock and will shoot awesome with very little load development. The 124 in my Tikka 6.5 PRC didn't make me feel too warm and fuzzy past 300 yards so I bailed on them in that cartridge and will stick with a 140 VLD

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i am very impressed with the 25 caliber Hammer bullets, they shoot very accurate at 100 yards with small groups .i have even now purchased some 6mm / 80 gr Hammer bullets for my 10 yr. grandson to target shoot with and deer hunt with . this fall Grandson,Son and myself are all only going too use Hammer bullets to hunt with. the Hammer bullet company is a very easy company to work with , Hammer bullet company have a fast good easy shipping program too . Hammer bullet company has no middle man you deal directly with them good people ! Pete53


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Hey Pete..slide the leg of a streaghtened paper clip down inside the hollow point of the Hammer 6mm bullets. See what may be forced out. My try pack all have a liquid,(Oil?) inside. I`m suspecting there to help expansion.

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CG, there is something to the oil in the hollow pt cavity. Wait until you shoot them at long range! I shot a bull elk at 400ish yards and watched the bullet “seek” it’s way to the elk through the scope! It looked like a TOW missile on its way to the target. It seemed much more visible than a bullets shockwave. It’s was actually kind of a distraction for me as I’ve never experienced this with any other bullet. Certainly don’t care for it. Hammer spokesman mentioned the oil thingy. Dunno, I didn’t see it when shooting long range at steel but I certainly did with the elk.

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The bullets are CNC machined. All of those machines use some sort of cutting fluid; sometimes its water based and sometimes oil. Given the aerodynamic friction heat generated during 3000 fps flight, I don't doubt the oil smokes or the water steams during transit.

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I've seen the oil vapor trail when shooting the 143 in my 280AI. I sent a video to Steve at hammer bullets and he said it was there cutting oil burning off. Its pretty neat really.

I forgot I'm shooting the 88 hammer in my 6mm creedmoor too and I took a mulie doe with it at 80 yards and both my wife and son killed whitetail does in Texas at 150 yards. Those little ole Texas whitetails acted like they were a coyote hit with a 22-250, stone dead on the spot

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Wondered about the machining process, or manufacturing process leaving traces of oil inside to nose cavity. All bullets had it.

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