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For inside the home use from a 10.5" 5.56/.223 which factory Load would you choose?

Point blank to 10 yards or so

Taking into consideration Penetration,expansion ,fragmentation,tumbling,muzzleflash.

5.56 vs .223 ?

Brand and grain ?

Thanks


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Man, I honestly wouldn't!


Unless you like your ears to bleed.


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Well Unfortunately I started shooting when I was about 8 years old in 68 and no one used ear protection and I shot that way till bought 78 so I have had ringing in the ears for many years.

I surely don't need my hearing to be any worse but if it comes to that or protecting my and my wife's lives so be it .


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That's what I consider the best self defense round for .223 in a home defense situation.

But my barrel length is longer than 10.5".

Unless you have a good suppressor, a short barrel going off indoors is like a stun grenade. A 16" is bad enough.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar



That's what I consider the best self defense round for .223 in a home defense situation.

But my barrel length is longer than 10.5".

Unless you have a good suppressor, a short barrel going off indoors is like a stun grenade. A 16" is bad enough.


Yep, i hand load 62gr bearclaws and 64gr nosler bondeds for Wifes 16" AR, had her put on head phones and stand 18 feet back in the den and fire rounds out the back door into the pasture, wanted her to learn and be expecting the blast/shockwave, you damn right RBB, a little AR will rock the whole room LOL!


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I am no expert, but a 10.5" barrel on an AR is vulgar shooting outside, I can not image what that would be like in a house.

I was wondering the same about what ammo would be good for home use as well. I was thinking maybe the 40 gr varmint rounds as I have seen them in action on Pdogs. If y'all say the 55 is good, that is fine with me, I will try and get some. Do you know if they are explosive as the 40 are?


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Most rounds at that distance and velocity will probably fragment pretty well

For me I just use whatever I would hunt with. Should work!

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I'm thinking 00 buck


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
I'm thinking 00 buck


Don’t be silly, it’s too early in the day.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
I'm thinking 00 buck


I did not realize that 00 buck would make for good ammo when fired from a 10.5inch 5.56/.223
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Originally Posted by pullit
I am no expert, but a 10.5" barrel on an AR is vulgar shooting outside, I can not image what that would be like in a house.

I was wondering the same about what ammo would be good for home use as well. I was thinking maybe the 40 gr varmint rounds as I have seen them in action on Pdogs. If y'all say the 55 is good, that is fine with me, I will try and get some. Do you know if they are explosive as the 40 are?


Almost anything shot inside will be hard on the ears

This guy has a lot of gel test
https://www.youtube.com/c/chopinbloc/search?query=Hornady%2055%20grain%20gel%20test

And this is as close as I have been able to find so far to the 55 grain V-Max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVzWxFL46s

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Shoot one from inside a car through the windshield. It's a blast... literally.


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Yeah, I have only done it in training with ear protection. It is still impressive. I have had the misfortune to be in a car in a kerfuffle in which five rounds of .357 Magnum was fired. No ear protection that time. It sucked.


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Originally Posted by bcraig
Originally Posted by Tyrone
I'm thinking 00 buck


I did not realize that 00 buck would make for good ammo when fired from a 10.5inch 5.56/.223
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Point - it can't.
Wrong tool for the job.

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Back in my teenage years, a buddy and I were riding in his truck across a field. He say a groundhog and stuck the barrel of a Marlin 444 out the window and fired. When he turned around and was talking to me, I could see his lips moving but never heard a word he was saying. It took several minutes before my hearing started to come back.
That said, I can not see how anything shot inside a house with no hearing protection would be fun, but in most cases if you are shooting inside a house it most likely is not for fun to start with.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by bcraig
Originally Posted by Tyrone
I'm thinking 00 buck


I did not realize that 00 buck would make for good ammo when fired from a 10.5inch 5.56/.223
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Point - it can't.
Wrong tool for the job.


Well I was trying to get my point across by being gentle but evidently this approach is not working.

This is the AR and Tactical rifle section .

And I did not ask which was the best tool for home defense , IE Rifle VS shotgun VS Pistol
I asked which Factory loaded 5.56/.223 would be a good choice for a 10.5 " AR-15 pistol.

While I can see that you are adamant in your choice of Buckshot and Shotgun for Home defense that was not my question.

I have several shotguns and they are in fact loaded with buckshot 12 gauge with 00 and 20 gauge with #3.
Fine choice for a shotgun but I Like the weight ,shortness ,Capacity and low recoil of the 5.56/.223 Pistol .
My wife is all of 80 pounds and 74 years old and barely able to hold up even a Lightweight 20 Gauge with 20 inch barrel and can barely tolerate the recoil from
the semi auto 20 Gauge.

I have made the choice for a 10.5 inch barrel 5.56/.223 for myself and her because of the weight,good terminal ballistics for the ranges involved ,Magazine capacity etc.
That does not mean that my other guns will be unloaded or unavailable for use.

The only person who has to be satisfied with my choice of home defense weapon is myself.

I did not have to Justify my choice to have and use a a 10.5" barreled 5.56/.223 for home defense but CHOSE to, to better explain that my question was about which ammo was recommended for the weapon I choose and NOT whether a shotgun or a rifle or a handgun was best for Defense.

I am sure that you meant well and trust that you understand my question better now.




By the way ,do you have any input on a good load for home defense using a 10.5" barreled 5.56/.223 AR-15 Pistol ?






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