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This thread is full of good G2. Man, it’s such an easy cartridge it seems.

Was Elmer Keith’s 400 on a Springfield?


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Originally Posted by beretzs
This thread is full of good G2. Man, it’s such an easy cartridge it seems.

Was Elmer Keith’s 400 on a Springfield?


I was up close to it when they had it at the Boise Cabelas. I’m pretty sure it was. The 400 wasn’t on my radar strong at the time so I didn’t look real close at it.


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Mines a 24” #5 Shilen. I haven’t minded packing it. It wouldn’t be my choice for a sheep hunt but I pack it caribou and moose hunting.

Perhaps you might consider an extra bowl of wheaties on occasion. 😁


Ha! Probably the best advice I have got so far on this thread wink

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Got the dies ordered yesterday which they had in stock. I exchanged a couple emails with CH4D to verify the dies I would receive would match the reamer I plan to use for the project.

So far I have jacketed pistol bullets coming, 350 and 400 cast bullets, 80 QC cases, bullet sizing dies, 2-Die set, an action, stock and scope (Leupold 2-7x33 with heavy duplex).

Thinking all I need is the tube, reamer and some time at my ‘smith’s while I wait to track down some jacketed 300-400 grain bullets. May be able to get familiar with it this summer and hunt it a hit next fall.

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Congratulations MedRiver, you got it lined out well.

A 1:16" twist might be a bit better for cast bullet shooting than 1:14",
but somehow I will manage to get by, if I use hard alloy and powder-coat paint.

This bullet designed for the .400 H&H will also do for a .400 Whelen, from Accurate Molds:

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Yes, on the N.O.E. 412-363-FN GC, that is the Rusty McGee bullet with Hornady .416 gas check.
The gas check heel on that one is 0.397" diameter.

And I am no longer infatuated with the N.O.E. 412-400-RN PB, thanks to Magnum Bob.
Prefer the AM 41-410HG now.
The gas check heel on that one is 0.391" diameter and might require a Gator Gas Check meant for .41-cal handgun bullets and such.
Will have to try and see, unless sumbuddy who know ?


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Originally Posted by mart
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This thread is full of good G2. Man, it’s such an easy cartridge it seems.

Was Elmer Keith’s 400 on a Springfield?


I was up close to it when they had it at the Boise Cabelas. I’m pretty sure it was. The 400 wasn’t on my radar strong at the time so I didn’t look real close at it.


Yes, it was a Springfield built by James Howe of G&H in 1924, right after Townie announced it in 1923.
Elmer wrote about it in the April 15,1924 edition of THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN.

Elmer was still writing about it in THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN January 1936, starting on page 18.

Maybe this is legible enough to read with magnification, maybe not:

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The 400 Whelen in Africa, written up in early 1924 by Townsend Whelen, THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN,
don't strain your eyes:

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I do not have the articles themselves to get better scans.
Those files came to me over the internet from Michael Petrov himself, Leader of The A-Team.
Good man, may he Rest in Peace.


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"I like to do all my hunting before my shooting" as timely now as then..mb


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Thanks for sharing those articles Riflecrank. Very interesting reading.

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Thanks for the article Riflecrank!

Med, welcome to the club!

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Yes, many Thanks Riflecrank, imagine what can be done with today's bullets Gents.


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Originally Posted by MileHighShooter


Med, welcome to the club!


Thanks! Got the barrel ordered today. Pac-nor 1:16” #4 stainless super-match with a few tweaks to the contour to get me to a 21” finished length with a little shorter shank.

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Outstanding. You’re about to embark on one of the most enjoyable rifle projects. I have thoroughly enjoyed my 400 Whelen journey. I’ll never get to use mine in Africa but I have many more seasons here in Alaska to go, God willing.


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Glad those of you with good eyes were able to read those articles.


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Originally Posted by mart
Outstanding. You’re about to embark on one of the most enjoyable rifle projects. I have thoroughly enjoyed my 400 Whelen journey. I’ll never get to use mine in Africa but I have many more seasons here in Alaska to go, God willing.


You're the very reason i had my 400 Whelen built Mart, reading about your hunts was very interesting, when those 98 Mauser Dumoulin actions became available it was a done deal ; ]

Thanks!


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Originally Posted by mart
Outstanding. You’re about to embark on one of the most enjoyable rifle projects. I have thoroughly enjoyed my 400 Whelen journey. I’ll never get to use mine in Africa but I have many more seasons here in Alaska to go, God willing.


With any luck mine will be on a bush plane heading towards moose country in your neck of the woods Sep 2023.

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Outstanding. You’re about to embark on one of the most enjoyable rifle projects. I have thoroughly enjoyed my 400 Whelen journey. I’ll never get to use mine in Africa but I have many more seasons here in Alaska to go, God willing.


You're the very reason i had my 400 Whelen built Mart, reading about your hunts was very interesting, when those 98 Mauser Dumoulin actions became available it was a done deal ; ]

Thanks!


Yup. Same reason it’s never left my brain as well.

Might need to call Krieger and get a barrel on order. With the long wait, it’ll give me time to sort out the rest.

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Yep, you may want too check with SARCO to see if they have any more of those actions left.


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