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Originally Posted by renegade50
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Additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, and then more additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, etc., for century after century.


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Originally Posted by renegade50
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Additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, and then more additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, etc., for century after century.


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Of copies, of copies, of copies, or stories told, and retold, around campfires for generations or longer....


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Originally Posted by antlers
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Don't want to read endless pages, does anyone have the Cliff Notes on this discussion?
A. God exists.
B. The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened.
C. Jesus rose from the dead.



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Of copies, of copies, of copies...
The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Of copies, of copies, of copies...
The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”.

Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Of copies, of copies, of copies...
The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”.
Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause.
So we doubt the entirety of ancient written history, because all of what we have are “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Got it.


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"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12

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"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."

It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,

OR

God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."

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Is this bullsheit really still going on?

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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12

Who said,
"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."

It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,

OR

God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."
Have you ever published lies about your achievements and exploits on this forum? Did you shoot a one hole group with an 8mm rifle at 100 yards when you were a child less than 10 years old?


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Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers?

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Of copies, of copies, of copies...
The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”.
Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause.
So we doubt the entirety of ancient written history, because all of what we have are “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Got it.


The words I used were "many of the narratives".


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12

Who said,
"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."

It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,

OR

God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."

Why does God need a space ship? James Tiberius Kirk.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
Have you ever published lies about your achievements and exploits on this forum? Did you shoot a one hole group with an 8mm rifle at 100 yards when you were a child less than 10 years old?


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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers?
Sorry H/C you discredited yourself by lying and lying a lot. Brings discredit on everything you say. NVhntr put up some fantastic claims you made.


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Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers?


That's funny as hell Bill. We all know who the pathological liar is here. Just look in the mirror.
Happy Camper, Western Juniper, barnabus, Frank (isn't that the name you gave Wabi?) Bill.
Absolutely nothing that comes from your mouth can be believed.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
The words I used were "many of the narratives".
So even though the entirety of ancient written history is “copies, of copies, of copies…”, it’s OK to discount the “copies, of copies, of copies…” that you don’t like…that you have a clear bias and agenda against…while accepting the “copies, of copies, of copies…” that you’re OK with. Got it.


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Originally Posted by Happy_Camper
Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers?


That's funny as hell Bill. We all know who the pathological liar is here. Just look in the mirror.
Happy Camper, Western Juniper, barnabus, Frank, (Isn't that the name you gave Wabi?) Bill.


Bill??? Did we get a real name for this fuqking clown?

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Let's put up a reward to dox him.


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