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Additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, and then more additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, etc., for century after century.
God: “I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”
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A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, and then more additions, subtractions, alterations, interpretations, translations, corrections, etc., for century after century.
God: “I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”
Bruce
X2 👍👍👍 Of copies, of copies, of copies, or stories told, and retold, around campfires for generations or longer....
Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.
Go quiet or full tilt, just don't get caught in the middle of the stupids. DD
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Don't want to read endless pages, does anyone have the Cliff Notes on this discussion? A. God exists. B. The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened. C. Jesus rose from the dead. Amen !!!
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Of copies, of copies, of copies... The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Of copies, of copies, of copies... The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause.
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Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.
Go quiet or full tilt, just don't get caught in the middle of the stupids. DD
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Of copies, of copies, of copies... The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause. So we doubt the entirety of ancient written history, because all of what we have are “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Got it.
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"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12
Who said,
"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."
It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,
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God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.
"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."
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Is this bullsheit really still going on?
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"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12
Who said,
"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."
It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,
OR
God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.
"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."
Have you ever published lies about your achievements and exploits on this forum? Did you shoot a one hole group with an 8mm rifle at 100 yards when you were a child less than 10 years old?
"Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus" Thomas Jefferson
Black Rifles Matter
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of the scoundrel
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Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers?
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Campfire Oracle
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Of copies, of copies, of copies... The same can be said for all of ancient history. There are no original memoirs, no original literary works, and no original histories from all of ancient history. You’ll never find a papyrus original written by Caesar, or Aristotle, or Socrates, or Alexander the Great, or Pythagoras…or any of their contemporaries or eyewitnesses…it is all “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Yes, we have good reasons to doubt many of the narratives in ancient history, which in no way helps your cause. So we doubt the entirety of ancient written history, because all of what we have are “copies, of copies, of copies…”. Got it. The words I used were "many of the narratives".
Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.
Go quiet or full tilt, just don't get caught in the middle of the stupids. DD
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Campfire Oracle
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"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted."
Psalm 12
Who said,
"The original New Testament documents are reliable accounts of what actually happened."
It's either a shame that the God Who inspired the originals only had enough power to speak truth to that very limited audience ,
OR
God has been willing and able to preserve His Word correctly throughout the generations.
"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him."
James Tiberius Kirk.
Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.
Go quiet or full tilt, just don't get caught in the middle of the stupids. DD
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Have you ever published lies about your achievements and exploits on this forum? Did you shoot a one hole group with an 8mm rifle at 100 yards when you were a child less than 10 years old?
While sucking black cock 🤣
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Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers? Sorry H/C you discredited yourself by lying and lying a lot. Brings discredit on everything you say. NVhntr put up some fantastic claims you made.
"Paul was the first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus" Thomas Jefferson
Black Rifles Matter
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of the scoundrel
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Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers? That's funny as hell Bill. We all know who the pathological liar is here. Just look in the mirror. Happy Camper, Western Juniper, barnabus, Frank (isn't that the name you gave Wabi?) Bill. Absolutely nothing that comes from your mouth can be believed.
Let's Go Brandon! FJB
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The words I used were "many of the narratives". So even though the entirety of ancient written history is “copies, of copies, of copies…”, it’s OK to discount the “copies, of copies, of copies…” that you don’t like…that you have a clear bias and agenda against…while accepting the “copies, of copies, of copies…” that you’re OK with. Got it.
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Have you ever told the truth about the Word of God or have you always tried to undermine it by attacking the messengers? That's funny as hell Bill. We all know who the pathological liar is here. Just look in the mirror. Happy Camper, Western Juniper, barnabus, Frank, (Isn't that the name you gave Wabi?) Bill. Bill??? Did we get a real name for this fuqking clown?
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Let's put up a reward to dox him.
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