24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
K
keith Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
I needed to ask if the 75g ELD-M expands on varmints, p. dogs, coyotes, and especially Chucks out of cases like the 22/250, 22 Creed, 22/250 AI.

Thanks in advance

Keith

GB1

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
They definitely expand but not quite the explosive results you get with a true varmint bullets such as 50 Vmax and the like.


Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!

Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,652
B
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,652
I have several 22-250AI's all 1-8" twist, have one 1-8"twist 22-250. So far the 75gr ELD-M is a 3" bullet in the 3 guns I have tried it in

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
75 ELD's shoot sub 1/2" in my 1-7" 22br, 1-7" 22 CM, 1-8" .223, 1-8" .223AI and 1-7".223AI.

It aint the bullet.

Last edited by Higginez; 01/10/22.

Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!

Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,761
D
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,761
[quote=Higginez]75 ELD's shoot sub 1/2" in my 1-7" 22br, 1-7" 22 CM, 1-8" .223, 1-8" .223AI and 1-7".223AI.

It aint the bullet.[/quote



What powder are you using?

IC B2

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,243
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,243
I started to buy a Tikka fast twist 22-250 from the guys in Kentucky [shortactionsmoker] a few years back, told a buddy out in western Oklahoma [read, very windy] about the deal, he bought one and shoots 75gr eldm's, been laying crows and coyotes in the grass ever since, says it wrecks em pretty well, even neck shot a couple deer, works on pig head shots too according to him.


Trump Won!
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 17,297
Originally Posted by doctor_Encore
[quote=Higginez]75 ELD's shoot sub 1/2" in my 1-7" 22br, 1-7" 22 CM, 1-8" .223, 1-8" .223AI and 1-7".223AI.

It aint the bullet.[/quote



What powder are you using?


16 in the BR, 26 in the Creedmoor and Lever in the 223’s.


Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!

Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,226
P
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 2,226
That's the plan for the 22 CM build - 75 gr. eldm's at ~3300...


It's you and the bullet, and all the rest is secondary.
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,722
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,722
I have a PacNor barrel on a Ruger in 22.250. I originally bought the barrel and had it mounted on a Ruger 223.

I later sold the rifle with the original factory barrel and had it rechambered and put on a 22.250.

the Pac Nor had a one in 7 twist, and was 24 inch Stainless Steel.

75 ELD=M shoot quite well in it, even at 300 to 400 yds distances on targets at our local range.

don't know if the 1 in 7 twist, helps that much over the 1 in 8 twist.


"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC

“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,243
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,243
Originally Posted by Seafire
I have a PacNor barrel on a Ruger in 22.250. I originally bought the barrel and had it mounted on a Ruger 223.

I later sold the rifle with the original factory barrel and had it rechambered and put on a 22.250.

the Pac Nor had a one in 7 twist, and was 24 inch Stainless Steel.

75 ELD=M shoot quite well in it, even at 300 to 400 yds distances on targets at our local range.

don't know if the 1 in 7 twist, helps that much over the 1 in 8 twist.


I asked old buddy that across a hunt camp fire, he said 8 twist in his Tikka was fine, iirc he's bootin em out at around 3400 fps with 100v/staball 6.5 or CFE 223, i'd call and ask but he's up in the Dakotas on a pipeline job.


Trump Won!
IC B3

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,481
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,481
An 8” twist is plenty for that bullet at that muzzle velocity.

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
K
keith Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
I know that it will stabalize, I need to know if it blows up p. dogs and chucks, please.

I would like to hear from those with hands on experience, not second hand. You may have had a hunting partner that shot them.

Thanks in advance.

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,775
D
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,775
Originally Posted by Higginez
They definitely expand but not quite the explosive results you get with a true varmint bullets such as 50 Vmax and the like.



This.

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,722
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 42,722
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by Seafire
I have a PacNor barrel on a Ruger in 22.250. I originally bought the barrel and had it mounted on a Ruger 223.

I later sold the rifle with the original factory barrel and had it rechambered and put on a 22.250.

the Pac Nor had a one in 7 twist, and was 24 inch Stainless Steel.

75 ELD=M shoot quite well in it, even at 300 to 400 yds distances on targets at our local range.

don't know if the 1 in 7 twist, helps that much over the 1 in 8 twist.


I asked old buddy that across a hunt camp fire, he said 8 twist in his Tikka was fine, iirc he's bootin em out at around 3400 fps with 100v/staball 6.5 or CFE 223, i'd call and ask but he's up in the Dakotas on a pipeline job.



Gunner,

Running them at 3350 fps MV....
3 powders I use in it, each has a charge of 33.5 grains....
IMR 4895, 4064 and RL 15.


"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC

“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
K
keith Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
I know the 75's are accurate, that is not the question. At 350-400 yards, do p. dogs just fall over like they have been shot with a Match King or do they explode? Crawlers?

Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 42
B
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
B
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 42
We shoot 75 amazes, Eldms, etc in 22-250AI s and 22 Creedmoors….. at 3350-3450 FPS depending on barrel length and cartridge/rifle, YES, stuff blows up!

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 25
D
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
D
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 25
K,
We use Eldms in all of our fast twist 22s. The 22-04 drove them just over 3,000 and made many kills in the 7-800 yard range, it was not violent but certainly not pencil holes either. 22x47 etc gets about 3,400 fps and does have violent results on solid hits at the same ranges. Many kills much further with good results. You will not be disappointed. Dale

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
K
keith Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,197
Thanks Dale for your input!

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,951
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,951
Ive used the 75 a max and 75 eldms for years on PD's.Great bullet, still pops em beyond 400 yards with a 1-8, even a 1-9.

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,121
Keith,

They work well on gophers out of my 1-8" 223. I'd imagine you would get even more graphic results out of the cartridges you're shooting.


Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.


Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

720 members (12344mag, 007FJ, 10gaugeman, 10gaugemag, 1234, 10ring1, 59 invisible), 2,614 guests, and 1,177 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,146
Posts18,464,986
Members73,925
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.064s Queries: 14 (0.006s) Memory: 0.8825 MB (Peak: 1.0155 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-24 01:15:30 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS