|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585 |
Dogcatcher: I hate to say "I told you so" - but "I told you so"! I warned the CampFirers in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico that the scourge that is the transplanted Canadian Wolves would soon be ruining things for them - unless they fought the re-introductions tooth and nail. Sounds like "it" (the scourge) is starting in the southern Rocky Mountain states now. Sad. Thanks for nothing rmWf! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
So what's the RMEF going to do when there are so few elk that the season is closed on them? Same old rhetoric. MT has a 6 month season on elk and soon you will be able to kill 3. WY has a long season and you can kill multiple. Not in favor of wolves but it’s not the doom and gloom guys try to make it out to be. Guys that couldn’t kill elk before the wolf simply blame wolves for not being able to kill them after the wolf.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,976
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,976 |
I'm surprised a rancher would just sit back and let his cows and dog be munched. SSS When you've got one pair and everyone knows how many pups they had, seems like it'd be kind of hard to stay under the radar if you decided to thin the pack. I can tell you from experience, if you kill an animal unobserved and walk off without touching it I don't care if it is in your front yard they will play hell convicting you. Just do NOT make any statements. Repeating, do NOT make any statements. That may be true for some animals, but have you ever tried it with some of the first wolves to migrate into your state with this many eyes on them? Almost everyone convicted of shooting a protected species either picked it up or handled it in some way or talked about it. Wolves do not generally hang around where there are lots of observers. Pick up your brass and walk off.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,237
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,237 |
Something bad happened to some Wolves in an area up here, didn't take long for the law to start snooping around asking whodunnit, nobody seemed to know anything. I don't see the difference from Wolves and Rats, they are similar.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 45,996
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 45,996 |
I'm surprised a rancher would just sit back and let his cows and dog be munched. SSS When you've got one pair and everyone knows how many pups they had, seems like it'd be kind of hard to stay under the radar if you decided to thin the pack. I can tell you from experience, if you kill an animal unobserved and walk off without touching it I don't care if it is in your front yard they will play hell convicting you. Just do NOT make any statements. Repeating, do NOT make any statements. That may be true for some animals, but have you ever tried it with some of the first wolves to migrate into your state with this many eyes on them? Almost everyone convicted of shooting a protected species either picked it up or handled it in some way or talked about it. Wolves do not generally hang around where there are lots of observers. Pick up your brass and walk off. I've been in plenty of places where that would be feasible. Not sure it is on your own ranch with a bunch of people there guarding your cattle. And no doubt some there to make sure nothing happens to the wolves.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 12,111
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 12,111 |
673; Morning again my friend, we're part way out the door so I'll be uncharacteristically brief.
Without going into details because why would I?
The folks in the ranching and farming community that I know - for the most part - have either a backhoe or a track hoe on the place.
While I've heard rumors of some predator removal taking place, I cannot substantiate it, nor would I attempt to do so, again because why would I?
I'd be shocked down to my Canadian made Icelandic wool socks if the farmers and ranchers on the other side of the medicine line were substantially different, but I could be wrong.
Have a good one sir, we're off to the city for a grocery run.
Dwayne
The most important stuff in life isn't "stuff"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527 |
Dogcatcher: I hate to say "I told you so" - but "I told you so"! I warned the CampFirers in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico that the scourge that is the transplanted Canadian Wolves would soon be ruining things for them - unless they fought the re-introductions tooth and nail. Sounds like "it" (the scourge) is starting in the southern Rocky Mountain states now. Sad. Thanks for nothing rmWf! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
The RMEF can eat a dick after that stunt. On a side note...I know they used to sell RMEF golf balls (might still?) I reached out to them and said it was ironic they supported golf, when golf courses and surrounding neighborhoods being built on winter range is a major contributor to declining deer and elk numbers in the west. Not to mention water usage. They are a piece of schit organization.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,745
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 30,745 |
Something bad happened to some Wolves in an area up here, didn't take long for the law to start snooping around asking whodunnit, nobody seemed to know anything. I don't see the difference from Wolves and Rats, they are similar. woof is just a big coyote in Utah.......
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585 |
Something bad happened to some Wolves in an area up here, didn't take long for the law to start snooping around asking whodunnit, nobody seemed to know anything. I don't see the difference from Wolves and Rats, they are similar. woof is just a big coyote in Utah....... LOL
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 783
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 783 |
Shooting won't work boys, poison is your friend. Of course that's just what i've heard.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,738
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,738 |
Not in favor of wolves but it’s not the doom and gloom guys try to make it out to be.
Guys that couldn’t kill elk before the wolf simply blame wolves for not being able to kill them after the wolf.
I'd say the wuffs reducing the North Yellowstone elk herd from 20,000+ to 4400 head is substantial, but maybe not to a POS bunnyhugger. Eliminated the popular late cow hunts that helped families put good meat in their freezers. That's pretty much doom and gloom to a lot of elk hunters.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,237
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 8,237 |
Shooting won't work boys, poison is your friend. Of course that's just what i've heard. I have been led to believe there is a method of reducing their numbers in a humane way, via baiting with a "poison" that simply sterilizes them. I like the idea although you aren't going to hear much about it.
Last edited by 673; 01/22/22.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 19,068
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 19,068 |
Wolves only kill lame old animals and just enough to subsist. I hope that is satire
If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,585 |
Not in favor of wolves but it’s not the doom and gloom guys try to make it out to be.
Guys that couldn’t kill elk before the wolf simply blame wolves for not being able to kill them after the wolf.
I'd say the wuffs reducing the North Yellowstone elk herd from 20,000+ to 4400 head is substantial, but maybe not to a POS bunnyhugger. Eliminated the popular late cow hunts that helped families put good meat in their freezers. That's pretty much doom and gloom to a lot of elk hunters. The late season cow hunts eliminated the late season cow hunts. An aging herd and liberal seasons were not sustainable. Anyone with just 2 firing brain cells saw it coming. Biology 101
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,976
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,976 |
Another thing, do not photograph. If you can help it do not get close enough to photograph. It has been surprising to me since I retired 11 years ago how many people put illegal stuff on Fakebook. Lots of cases made off of Fakebook admissions and cell phone videos and pictures.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,659
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,659 |
Wolves only kill lame old animals and just enough to subsist. I hope that is satire I had a guy on face book ,who claimed to be a biologist ,and studied wolves . who claimed the very same thing .He told me wolves did not kill livestock or healthy wild game only the weak animals .I tried to tell him what y'all who live with wolves said ,he denied all of it ,so yes there are people that believe this
Last edited by rem shooter; 01/22/22.
NRA Life Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,950
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,950 |
Practice the three S's. Shoot, shovel, and shut up. Wolves hunt in packs. They will rotate chasing a healthy animal until the animal can't run anymore, then the whole pack attacks the animal to kill and eat it. Doesn't matter how healthy the animal is. Wolves and bears were killed for two reasons. They were killing livestock and people might need the fur from either animal or the bear grease for cooking if they didn't have hogs. Most of the time they were killing livestock.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24,189
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24,189 |
Wolves only kill lame old animals and just enough to subsist. I hope that is satire His last for 4 words are a good clue.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,280
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,280 |
It was a number of years ago, but I knew a “rancher” that had a small outfit near Red Lodge. Wolves had been introduced and all was ok until the livestock losses started mounting up. Cowboys just started to shoot the wolves…. Some had sport targeting collared wolves then roping deer and putting the dead wolf collars on the deer. Wolves were almost eradicated in that area. The powers that became to town to negotiate a truce. As related to me, the big beef was that filing a livestock loss claim was an administrative hassle and the poindexters reviewing the loss claims were denying or delaying many of them. So, the powers fixed it. Suddenly, the livestock loss claims were processed promptly and paid. Last I heard most everybody ….except a few cows…..were ok with the arrangement. The powers that be had to realize that it was part of their responsibility to come up with the money and prompt claim administration.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24,189
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 24,189 |
Hastings;
Almost everyone convicted of shooting a protected species either picked it up or handled it in some way or talked about it. Wolves do not generally hang around where there are lots of observers. Pick up your brass and walk off. [/quote] ------------------------------------------------------^^
Words to live by, by a man who knows.
Use a bullet that will exit.
Last edited by ol_mike; 01/22/22.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,089
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,089 |
Congrats to BHA clowns like cal dumbed buzzh for getting wolves into the world's largest elk herd in Colorado. Since wolves have been introduced into Washington elk tags and seasons have been reduced over 50 per cent. .Oregon has hjsut gone to draw only non res archery tags because of the wolves. Used to be OTC tags over 50 yers I never understand anti hunting, pro wolf trolls like you even bother posting on here. Dogcatcher: I hate to say "I told you so" - but "I told you so"! I warned the CampFirers in Colorado, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico that the scourge that is the transplanted Canadian Wolves would soon be ruining things for them - unless they fought the re-introductions tooth and nail. Sounds like "it" (the scourge) is starting in the southern Rocky Mountain states now. Sad. Thanks for nothing rmWf! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
So what's the RMEF going to do when there are so few elk that the season is closed on them? Same old rhetoric. MT has a 6 month season on elk and soon you will be able to kill 3. WY has a long season and you can kill multiple. Not in favor of wolves but it’s not the doom and gloom guys try to make it out to be. Guys that couldn’t kill elk before the wolf simply blame wolves for not being able to kill them after the wolf.
Last edited by ribka; 01/22/22.
|
|
|
|
111 members (808outdoors, 338reddog, AB2506, 19rabbit52, 338Rules, 5spd, 12 invisible),
1,570
guests, and
1,045
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,190,718
Posts18,457,115
Members73,909
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|