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Be careful with some of the LS load data being posted here. Way over max from what Hodgon and hornady list. Me I stick with 8.0-8.2 gr of longshot with 180gr hard cast or xtp’s.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I am loading 10mm for the first time... for my father that lives in another state. I have some mixed once fired brass, a pound of longshot and some Gallant 200 grain coated round nose flat pointsWith this tread and other research, I am thinking that 7.5 grains of LS loaded to 1.26" COAL would be a safe general load. It shows as max with Hodgdon data with a similar bullet but I am seeing folks that take cast bullets up to 8.5 grains. Not looking for bear buster ammo. Just range ammo around 1100ish fps. But I plan on loading 800+ rounds without being able to test the in the DW(s) he will be shooting them in. Does anyone see an issue with a general load of 7.5 grain LS load with 200 coated cast? You will be just fine with 7.5gr of longshot. Should be fine up to 8.2grs
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8.2gr Longshot under 200gr XTP for 1200 fps in my 5" DW 1911 10MM, got load off Hodgdon's website, they list that charge for the 200gr FMJ, works more than fine for the 200gr XTP, Power Pistol under a 140gr Lehigh Penetrator for a real eye opener load, damn those things drill a deep hole, all loads in new Starline cases.
Also, Montana Bullet Works will send you 250 coated hard cast 200gr bullets for 45 bucks or some such, run them with the same charge of 8.2gr Longshot, they're slicker than snot and harder than a whores heart! very accurate large meplat smooth feeding bullet.
No smilies, bulges or any other BS on the fired cases.
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Be careful with some of the LS load data being posted here. Way over max from what Hodgon and hornady list. Me I stick with 8.0-8.2 gr of longshot with 180gr hard cast or xtp’s. Hodgdon 2021 lists : Longshot 8.5 start - 9.5 max 180 gr jacketed , 34,600 psi Longshot 7.0 start - 8.2 max 200gr jacketed , 35,000 psi Hornady 10mm data has at times proven to be a shizzshow.
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Be careful with some of the LS load data being posted here. Way over max from what Hodgon and hornady list. Me I stick with 8.0-8.2 gr of longshot with 180gr hard cast or xtp’s. Hodgdon 2021 lists : Longshot 8.5 start - 9.5 max 180 gr jacketed , 34,600 psi Longshot 7.0 start - 8.2 max 200gr jacketed , 35,000 psi Hornady 10mm data has at times proven to be a shizzshow. You sure about that??? It’s all fun and games until you blow up a 10mm.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Be careful with some of the LS load data being posted here. Way over max from what Hodgon and hornady list. Me I stick with 8.0-8.2 gr of longshot with 180gr hard cast or xtp’s. Hodgdon 2021 lists : Longshot 8.5 start - 9.5 max 180 gr jacketed , 34,600 psi Longshot 7.0 start - 8.2 max 200gr jacketed , 35,000 psi Hornady 10mm data has at times proven to be a shizzshow. You sure about that??? It’s all fun and games until you blow up a 10mm. Yes, I’m sure about that , since I looked at their data before posting . Here’s the pics and it’s right there in black and white . Not trying to argue with you dude just stating facts of what’s printed in Hodgdon 2021 annual . I’m running 200 gold dots with 8.2 longshot comfortably, but as you said it’s all fun and games till it blows ... mine won’t be blowing up but thanks . It’s hard to scold folks about their loads when they can just go consult another manual and find their load is a ok . Take care
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Be careful with some of the LS load data being posted here. Way over max from what Hodgon and hornady list. Me I stick with 8.0-8.2 gr of longshot with 180gr hard cast or xtp’s. Hodgdon 2021 lists : Longshot 8.5 start - 9.5 max 180 gr jacketed , 34,600 psi Longshot 7.0 start - 8.2 max 200gr jacketed , 35,000 psi Hornady 10mm data has at times proven to be a shizzshow. You sure about that??? It’s all fun and games until you blow up a 10mm. Yes, I’m sure about that , since I looked at their data before posting . Here’s the pics and it’s right there in black and white . Not trying to argue with you dude just stating facts of what’s printed in Hodgdon 2021 annual . I’m running 200 gold dots with 8.2 longshot comfortably, but as you said it’s all fun and games till it blows ... mine won’t be blowing up but thanks . It’s hard to scold folks about their loads when they can just go consult another manual and find their load is a ok . Take care I’m not trying to argue with as well. I see folks posting load data especially ones trying mimic underwood and others and I’m like holy chit. Well apparently Hodgon has two load datas going I pull my data from their online source, which as of today shows 8.2grs. Have a great day..
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A new 10mm owner here. Never handloaded pistol cartridges. Would love to roll my own, but pistol primers are the hang up. Are you guys using primers from personal stockpiles or are you able to hunt them down in the current marketplace? Tim
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Tim, Welcome to the ‘fire. Primers have been a challenge as of late. The only thing I have had a hard time getting is small pistol primers. In the recent months, I buy primers as I see them. Either online or locally. I posted a local WTB ad as well. Been paying $55 to $100 per 1k. That doesn’t stop folks from asking $120+ per 1k.
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N-105 has become my favorite powder for heavy loads 200-220 grain, in the 10mm.
Top velocity and accuracy.
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Loading 10mm since the late 80's w/ several 10's in the safe(s)
One has primer options w/ primer pockets depths recut....if your platforms mainspring is capable of setting off a rifle primer.
Those who load/shoot XTP's need to push some Speer 180gr Gold Dots to their potential....you'll abandon the Hornady....JUNK.
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N-105 has become my favorite powder for heavy loads 200-220 grain, in the 10mm.
Top velocity and accuracy.
Longshot isn't bad, but I prefer N-105 as well. Tony
Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
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Loading 10mm since the late 80's w/ several 10's in the safe(s)
One has primer options w/ primer pockets depths recut....if your platforms mainspring is capable of setting off a rifle primer.
Those who load/shoot XTP's need to push some Speer 180gr Gold Dots to their potential....you'll abandon the Hornady....JUNK. Damn, what's wrong with the 200gr XTP's? i hit a 275lb Kansas whitetail in the last rib, bullet exited crease behind shoulder offside, he walked 20 yards, stood there and died, i have about 500 count of the old 180gr Federal HST's with the double crimp groove, do you think they'd be a better 10mm bullet?
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N-105 has become my favorite powder for heavy loads 200-220 grain, in the 10mm.
Top velocity and accuracy.
Longshot isn't bad, but I prefer N-105 as well. Tony I use N-105 for medium loads in my 500 Linebaigh Big T, 460gr Keith bullet at 1000 fps, good stuff.
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Using 200 grain rimrock hard cast bullet, Max load of BE86 starline brass in my glock 20 with 6 inch KKM barrel very accurate. Don't have a chronograph but by the amount of recoil I imagine it's stepping right out. And I'm thinking with a big hardcast bullet will penetrate anything through and through in North America. The only thing I don't like is she smokes like a freight train, but in cleaning zero leading, must be the lube on the RR bullets, I'll take the smoke over leading any day.
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Try powder coated bullets. No leading, no smoke (it's from the lube) and they handle like jacketed. I'm using a Lee 165gr TC with PowerPistol in my 10mm. Use the same bullets in my 40 S&W's too but different powder.
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I've have powder coated many calibers including. 40 just didn't know about powder coating overtop on the lube they put on these
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The lube will not survive powder coating temps. Nor will PC stick to greasy bullets.
I have acetone washed lubed bullets, and then successfully powder coated them.
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