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Personally, I'm glad to see all these bolt guns. The gun landscape gets flat and dull when one thing dominates.

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Originally Posted by EFHutton
Any idea why these rifles are non existent from any manufacturer out there ?


This place has been off course so long, no one even knows what is going on in the world of guns. I doubt there is a manufacturer of guns that doesn’t make a 223.


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I've got a Smith & Wesson I bought new about 30 years ago or when they bought Husqvarna. I never shot it till last year. Put on a scope I had on my on. Bore sighted by eyeball at 50yrds.as luck would have it I printed the bullet about 2" high. Moved back to 100 yards but didn't change a thing. I just wanted to see the group from five shots and I couldn't believe it. A nice tight cloverleaf pattern. I stopped their . Went home and cleaned the gun . I had some 52grs that I loaded for it but haven't shot it since. Love the little thing but I've been to busy shooting other guns. Since components I heard was hard to get I made a search of my inventory. Found I had over 5000 primers plus had about 1000 brass given to me.

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I like the Kimber .223 bolt actions.

Also think that CZ makes a great little 527.

Ruger used to make a Mark II Sporter in .223 as well.

There's nothing quite like a sweet little .223 Rem bolt action sporter.

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Originally Posted by philthygeezer
I like the Kimber .223 bolt actions.

Also think that CZ makes a great little 527.

Ruger used to make a Mark II Sporter in .223 as well.

There's nothing quite like a sweet little .223 Rem bolt action sporter.


CZ has stopped making the 527, unfortunately.

And Kimber doesn’t chamber their 84 in 223 anymore either. I’m happy I got my 223 Montana when I did. It’s a fabulous rifle.

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I have a LH Kimber of Oregon 84 in 223 Rem. It's a beautiful little rifle.


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Yeah, this thread is about 223 bolt actions, and I have a Rem 700 Walmart clearance special with a SWFA 6 that shoots phenomenal, but this Ruger #3 in 223 seems to get carried afield more.

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That 4-14x mounted in this pic was a bit much so I replaced it with a FX-II in 4x. This is my only 223 that has taken deer so far.

I keep thinking of getting it rebored or rebarreled, but it is so much fun in 223 that I have to leave it as is.

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I sought out, and purchased, a Ruger Hawkeye 77 RSI in .223 a couple years ago, a Lipsey's special. So glad I bought it when I did! Fantastic little Pig/Deer rifle and all around plinker that looks great!


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Ive got a CZ 527 American in .223 and it shoots great with 68 gr boat tail hollow points

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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
A quality .223 bolt gun with a fast twist barrel in a "close-to" blueprint of your favorite hunting rifle is worth the investment. .22 rimfire aside, I shoot a lot more .223/.223AI rounds every year than I do all other centerfire rounds combined. About any time I'm shooting there's a 223/223AI along for the ride.

Just my opinion, but I think a manufacturer should make a fast twist .223 version of every rifle they produce.


Exactly. I bought a .223 M700 SPSS (plain-jane stainless) some years ago, slow twist and all, and rebarreled it to a fast twist Pac-Nor .223AI, 20” sporter profile, and I love it for exactly the reasons you say. I even put a brake on it so I can easily see my shots at longer ranges. Love the little rifle.

Just got a package from Midway- 30mm Talleys- I did a big scope shuffle and have a Zeiss v4 4-16x44 left over; it’s about to land on that rifle. My youngest is hangin’ here for the winter and is excited to learn to shoot a rifle for reals. smile

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Jeff O is ready to vote away his rifles.
Or does that only apply to Republican voters.

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My boy was home on leave and we zeroed an AR he built but right about dark I pulled the Tikka outta the truck.

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He had quite a smile after shooting it. Great rifle for the money.


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I’ve got 1/2 pound of 335 left then I’m switching to Lever. Already got some... sounds like it’s the shizzle in .223/.223AI bolt guns.


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I’ve got 1/2 pound of 335 left then I’m switching to Lever. Already got some... sounds like it’s the shizzle in .223/.223AI bolt guns.


It works well. Just finished up with the 6 ARC and 108 ELDs. It was good there as well.


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“I hear good things”.... lol

I’ll be running 75 ELD’s from my AI with it. Sounds like I’ll pick up significant FPS over 335.


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What sorta speeds do you get with the AI and 75’s?

I’m right at 2800 with 77’s and couldn’t be happier but I’ll never turn down free speed whistle


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Originally Posted by beretzs
What sorta speeds do you get with the AI and 75’s?

I’m right at 2800 with 77’s and couldn’t be happier but I’ll never turn down free speed whistle


I get 3k with H335 and 75s out of 22"


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2934 with Varget and 75 ELDM, vanilla.223.


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.223AI loads

27.6 gr Lever in FF'd Rem brass and CCI 400 is running 75 ELD's at 3,080 fps in a 21" Bartlein.

25.3 gr Lever is a pretty mild FF load with CCI 400 running 75 ELD's at 2,840 in 21" Bart.


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Nice. I could probably step on it a little I guess if I wanted. Thanks for the heads up.


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