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I'll go first 12 ga. 3.5" 2 oz load of Winchester Longbeard #4's 25 yards Same load of Winchester Longbeard #4's at 50 yards....I have to shoot it again and lower my scope some.
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I'll post some after I shoot them. No one's questioning the validity of a 12ga with lead shot, especially a 3-1/2" shell with 2-1/4oz of shot, I used one for a long while. Only saying that the smaller TSS shot makes the sub gauges a truly viable option. I poopooed TSS shot for a while, how could #9 shot perform like people are saying?! Then I tried it and it works and performs just like people say. Would a 12ga 3-1/2" with 2-1/4oz of #5's have killed the 2 toms I killed with the 20ga using #9 TSS? Of course it would have! But the 20 with the TSS shells put a smack on the toms, they dropped and never flopped, not even once! Even my turkey hunting partners commented on that. Now, if you want to argue just for arguments sake... haha!
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3 1/2" Longbeard #4 at 60 yards.
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3" 20 ga Federal Heavy 7's at 40 yards
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Guess that's the only two paper pics I have at the current time. I prefer to be sitting behind feathers in my pattern pics.
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I’ll try to remember to take a picture at the farm tomorrow but I’ve got a target with 368 in the 10” at a lasered 40. 20ga tss 9s
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Impressive! What choke(s)??
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I'll post some after I shoot them. No one's questioning the validity of a 12ga with lead shot, especially a 3-1/2" shell with 2-1/4oz of shot, I used one for a long while. Only saying that the smaller TSS shot makes the sub gauges a truly viable option. I poopooed TSS shot for a while, how could #9 shot perform like people are saying?! Then I tried it and it works and performs just like people say. Would a 12ga 3-1/2" with 2-1/4oz of #5's have killed the 2 toms I killed with the 20ga using #9 TSS? Of course it would have! But the 20 with the TSS shells put a smack on the toms, they dropped and never flopped, not even once! Even my turkey hunting partners commented on that. Now, if you want to argue just for arguments sake... haha! That is a 2 oz load....not a 2 & 1/4 oz load. You want to talk could'a I likely could have killed a few of the gobblers I killed last year with a 1oz dove load. Shot from a 24" Mobil choked SBE with a Pattern Master Code Black Turkey choke.....I've since bought an extra 24" Crio choked barrel and a Crio CBT tube just haven't got around to shooting it yet. (Both targets were shot at an NRA certified range) Ps....don't be scared off by the Pattern Master choke tube prices they cost more than inferior choke designs but are well worth the extra money.
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Yoder looks to me like you're comparing a fAiry dust shot swarm shot at 40 yards to a manly sized lead #4 shot at 60 yards....
What's with the dancing circles....I hope your aim isn't as far off as your drawing is.
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I’ll try to remember to take a picture at the farm tomorrow but I’ve got a target with 368 in the 10” at a lasered 40. 20ga tss 9s How many of those tee tiny #9 sized pellets you figure it takes to kill turkey ?
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I’ll try to remember to take a picture at the farm tomorrow but I’ve got a target with 368 in the 10” at a lasered 40. 20ga tss 9s How many of those tee tiny #9 sized pellets you.figure it takes to kill turkey ? Only 1, and they sure up the odds...
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I like my odds....
A single #4 lead can kill a big gobbler I wouldn't put my money on one fAiry dust size #9 pellet killing a big gobbler.
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That's your OPINION. And not saying it won't, because it definitely will. And this is what's great about all this, you use what you like, others will use what they like. You just want to argue, so be it. Hope you have a great, safe, spring in the turkey woods.
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Nothing personal...
Thanks I always have a great spring in the turkey woods.
Get a #4 lead and a TSS #9 pellet put them side by side and post a picture for these guys
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No way I'm cutting 1 of the TSS shells open to get a pellet out! Lol!
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And I know it's nothing personal. I had 40 years in the trades, it'll take a whole lot more than this. Now disparage my dog and see what happens! Haha!
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I sure am looking forward to getting my new 20 guage. Should be at my FFL on Thursday. My TSS and XR shells should be here today. But my Carlsons TSS choke isn't supposed to be delievered until monday. Won't be able to pattern it until next weekend. I'll see if I can pattern 3" #9 TSS next to 3" #5 XR out of the same choke tube.
I was limited to 2 boxes of TSS so I won't be shooting more than I need to. That stuff is more than $10 a round.
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Yoder looks to me like you're comparing a fAiry dust shot swarm shot at 40 yards to a manly sized lead #4 shot at 60 yards....
What's with the dancing circles....I hope your aim isn't as far off as your drawing is. Not really comparing anything, I reckon. Just a couple of pattern pics. The 3" black circle is what I aim at. The 10" circle goes over the center of pattern density. Sight-in patterns are just that. I'll generally shoot 3 sight-in patterns and find the 3" core of density inside the 10".......average them and sights/optics get adjusted accordingly to bring POI to POA and we're good to go. As far as manly lead and fairy dust go................ I'm only a proponent of shooting paper at 60 yards........or 50 yards. But, I'm pretty sure Federal Heavy 7's will give exit wounds beyond where a lead 4 would. I've seen Heavy 7's do some pretty manly stuff to turkeys.
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Fairy pixie dust 9s.....
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Fairy pixie dust 9s..... at 40 yards dead turkey, TSS works, hard to get lead to pattern like that
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