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I figure most of you have owned one or still do. Any of you still hunt with one? I know they're out dated, but mine is crazy accurate


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Still have one as a backup. What's your load/bullet combo?

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100 gr pyrodex, 245 powerbelt


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Owned a bunch of them everyone was stupid accurate with the right load combo.. which for most was a 240 gr xtp with 85-100 gr prodex RS most also shot the 300 gr XTP good with same load.


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I wish I had my old one back!, My buddies bought it when they first came out he killed a bunch of deer with it and a caribou and then I bought it off of him, and used it for about 4 or 5 years and killed some more deer with it in a moment of weakness I sold it. Was a stainless one with the grey lam. Stock.


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I still have my old MK-85 stainless, camo stocked synthetic 54 cal, it's my out of state no sabot/no scope elk rifle, it wears a receiver peep sight, 120gr 777 under the 535gr No Excuses bullet, must weigh 6 lbs, carry, shoot and load all day, as others have said, if i locked that thing down in a vise i have no doubt it's shoot ragholers at 100 yards.


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Part of the reason they are so accurate is the awesome trigger


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Originally Posted by 19352012
Part of the reason they are so accurate is the awesome trigger

It does have a great trigger. I don't mind the percussion caps. What I have to watch is the double safety. If you screw the back of bolt out and forget all you get is a click.


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Stainless with the black stock, have not shot it in a couple years. Almost sold it , but will keep it for now.

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Still have mine and hunt with it every year. Stainless 50 cal. with black synthetic stock. I shoot a 300 gr. XTP, crush rib sabot and 90 gr. loose Triple 7.

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I had an LK93 stainless Wolverine for many years. Did the 209 conversion when they hit the market. What an improvement that was!! Killed many a deer with 90 gr Pyrodex Select, a green sabot, and Hornady 240 gr XTP's. Groups at 100 yards were just under 2".

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I had one for many years, in fact I think it was my first muzzleloader. I just bought my daughter her first muzzleloader and I can say I do like the beak action and speed breach a lot. I’m shooting an SML now.

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I think they're under rated by todays shooters......simple basic design, accurate, reliable and easy to maintain. I've had, and have, many inlines of the break open and bolt action design and, other than the ability to use BH209 or smokeless, they don't offer any ballitic advantage over the good ol' MK85. Here's a version you don't see many of.

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Another variation that Knight made to try to modernize the MK85............the MK95 that uses .38 plastic cases as primer holders.
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I just resurrected my thumb hole wolverine as a back up to my encore which I use bh209 what was the reason it won’t work in the knights?

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BH209 requires a sealed breech and hotter ignition than the MK85 will produce.


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I have a Knight .45 that haven't fired for a few years.

Going to Colorado hunting deer.

Co: NO sabots The rifle was accurate with power belts which are legal

NO pelleted powder

Irion sights.

What are my options

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I have 4 or 5 MK-85s in multiple calibers. The 50s shoot great with 100gr of pyrodex and 250gr saboted bullet.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
I have a Knight .45 that haven't fired for a few years.

Going to Colorado hunting deer.

Co: NO sabots The rifle was accurate with power belts which are legal

NO pelleted powder

Irion sights.

What are my options

Lefty


Full-caliber .45s are pretty scarce, and of the PBs I looked at, one requires a 1-24” twist, and both seem designed for rapid expansion, not penetration. Better get looking ASAP, considering the current supply situation.


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I have one of the first ones made with the walther barrel. 100 gr of ffg black and a 240 grain pistol bullet and sabot has always worked well

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I just scored an unfired MK85 blued with laminate stock. Picked up a 209 conversion kit and an extra 100 red holders, they are getting scarce. Research says BH209 is too hot for plunger type guns, but 80 grains of it is the same velocity as two 777 pellets. Not sure if I'll try 80 gr of BH209 or stick with my old 90 gr Pyrodex Select that work so well in other Knights. I use green sabots and Hornady 240 gr XTP.

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I've got a ton of the old percussion caps, some CCI & a bunch with some German name I can't recall. I've got a newer Knight with break barrel that was my Dad's, but I think I'll just use the old mk85


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I have one that is percussion cap. Any idea where to get the 209 conversion kits?

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
I have one that is percussion cap. Any idea where to get the 209 conversion kits?


Any particular reason why you want to change? Blackhorn 209 isn't recommended in plunger type percussion systems even if you do convert to 209s.

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I have one that is percussion cap. Any idea where to get the 209 conversion kits?


Any particular reason why you want to change? Blackhorn 209 isn't recommended in plunger type percussion systems even if you do convert to 209s.
Just for the sake of being able to use the more reliable shotgun primers.

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
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I have one that is percussion cap. Any idea where to get the 209 conversion kits?


Any particular reason why you want to change? Blackhorn 209 isn't recommended in plunger type percussion systems even if you do convert to 209s.
Just for the sake of being able to use the more reliable shotgun primers.

Got it. I've used my MK-85 since I purchased it in '92. I've always used CCI #11 caps with it and have never had an issue. I have changed the nipple to a Knight Red Hot. I've never had a hang fire when hunting. I always snap a couple caps through it before loading.

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I have two, one stainless Camo, one stainless black. Both are .45 caliber. 2 pellets and a 245 grain powerbelt. Both shoot really well. I have tried the 3 pellet load but accuracy suffered, along with my shoulder.


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Price check on a Mk85 stainless that I'm considering buying. Appears to be in great shape and has a leopold 2x7x33 scope. What would a fair price be for the rifle?
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Ive have a stainless .50 and a blued .54 since the early 90's. The 50 was used for years in Idaho with 300 grn Hornady xtp's and black sabots for elk and deer, during dedicated muzzleloader hunts. Since the law changed no more sabots, now powerbelts are used. Loads were both 100 grains of 2f black. Both wear peep sights.

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MK-85 .54 cal

Anyone have any experience with the Knight 54s? There's one available at a LGS. Overall it's in decent condition (SS/lam stock) but I believe someone messed with the trigger. It's crisp and light (didn't have a gauge) but there's better than 1/4" of loose trigger travel before engages. I assume the Knight triggers lend themselves to being tuned up and some one was a little overzealous. I am new to the Knight world - are replacement triggers available? Thanks. DJB

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The one in my mk85 .50 cal is adjustable. It's a light trigger so I've never messed with it


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My Mk-85 came with a Timney trigger. The newer Knights were a Timney copy.

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Originally Posted by oldballcoach
Price check on a Mk85 stainless that I'm considering buying. Appears to be in great shape and has a leopold 2x7x33 scope. What would a fair price be for the rifle?
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Probably figure $250 for the rifle plus $150 for the scope, so $400 plus or minus a bit.


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Thanks for the information! He is asking $350. I think that seems to be a fair price.

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Originally Posted by Davelefty
MK-85 .54 cal

Anyone have any experience with the Knight 54s? There's one available at a LGS. Overall it's in decent condition (SS/lam stock) but I believe someone messed with the trigger. It's crisp and light (didn't have a gauge) but there's better than 1/4" of loose trigger travel before engages. I assume the Knight triggers lend themselves to being tuned up and some one was a little overzealous. I am new to the Knight world - are replacement triggers available? Thanks. DJB

If you end of getting it - I have replacement triggers for it.

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I have the bargain basement version, the BK-92. It wears a Williams peep sight for use in CO. It's probably not worth $75 on the market, but it's a deadly son of a gun. I've killed two elk, a mule deer and a few whitetails with it. I shoot a 400 grain lead flat point Powerbelt (formerly a Black Belt before CVA got them). That big slow bullet groups inside 3" at 100 for me. If I get a decent shot at that range or closer, the animal's dead. It never misfires with No 11 caps and I can't imagine how it could be any better for this use.

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Originally Posted by 19352012
Part of the reason they are so accurate is the awesome trigger
I also agree with this. I used a stainless Mk85 before the use of breech loaded weapons was allowed. Mine was very accurate and the trigger was fantastic. When breech loaded weapons were allowed for primitive rifle season, I gave my Mk85 to my buddy's son to replace his muzzle-loader that was stolen (not a Knight). I have only fond memories of that muzzle-loader.

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