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If they could come up with something really like that for materials in bad conditions that will rust metal quickly. Would be awesome no rust lightweight and number one needs to be affordable

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I wonder what the melting point is...


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Here's the full article from Nature:

https://inf.news/en/science/58a6db9ad86d021d57f743d74c0df4a8.html

Couple of interesting quotes:

The final reaction, using commercially available cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine as reaction raw materials, was carried out in a strong hydrogen bond acceptor solvent such as NMP, and the obtained yellow solid powder was named 2DPA-1 (Fig. 3a). It is worth mentioning that the reaction is carried out at room temperature and normal pressure, and the operation is simple and convenient. It only needs to simply mix and stir the reactants, even without strict anhydrous and oxygen-free operation. Easily scale up to tens of grams in the lab.

It appears cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine might be ingredients in Kevlar and some nylons, such as the PA-6 family.


2DPA-1 is insoluble in conventional organic solvents and water, but is soluble in strong acid (trifluoroacetic acid, pK a = 0.3) to form a clear solution. Nanofilms can then be formed on flat substrates with a simple spin coating (Fig. 4a). These films are precisely adjustable in thickness and their size is limited only by the size of the spin coater. In addition, the films can also be easily transferred to different substrates (silicon wafers with microporous structures or copper foils with openings) (Fig. 4b), or repeatedly stacked to show clear and uniform interference colors ( Figure 4c). In order to better demonstrate the transferability of the film, the authors prepared and transferred a film with a diameter of 6 inches and a thickness of 7 nanometers. 4e). SEM and AFM studies revealed that these spin-coated films produced exceptionally flat surfaces (Fig. 4f), with roughness generally less than 1 nm, and even as low as 0.3 nm. This means that in the micrometer range, the difference between the highest and lowest points of the membrane is only about four molecular heights.

this two-dimensional film is expected to exhibit ultra-high mechanical properties and become a two-dimensional version of Kevlar. The authors used nanoindentation to measure a series of self-supporting nanofilms (Figure 7), and the average Young's modulus of the nanofilms was measured to be 12.7 GPa, which is much higher than that of conventional polymers (2-4 GPa). At the same time, the yield strength of the material is as high as 488 MPa, which is about twice that of conventional structural steel, and the specific strength is about twelve times (simulations show that the density of 2DPA-1 is 1/6 of that of steel).

Notably, the material exhibited good puncture resistance during measurement and could withstand repeated failures without cracking. Whether punching holes on the edges of the membrane (Fig. 7b) or repeatedly piercing the membrane during the measurement (Fig. 7c–d) did not affect its mechanical performance. This property has not been observed in common 2D materials such as graphene.

It was found that the addition of a small amount of 2D polymer was sufficient to significantly improve the mechanical properties of the fibers. For example, 6.9% volume fraction of 2DPA-1 increases the Young's modulus of PC fibers by 72%; at the same time, the tensile strength also increases from 110 MPa to 185 MPa (Fig. 8c).

So, yea, it's kind of an exciting material.....


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Here's the full article from Nature:

https://inf.news/en/science/58a6db9ad86d021d57f743d74c0df4a8.html

Couple of interesting quotes:

The final reaction, using commercially available cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine as reaction raw materials, was carried out in a strong hydrogen bond acceptor solvent such as NMP, and the obtained yellow solid powder was named 2DPA-1 (Fig. 3a). It is worth mentioning that the reaction is carried out at room temperature and normal pressure, and the operation is simple and convenient. It only needs to simply mix and stir the reactants, even without strict anhydrous and oxygen-free operation. Easily scale up to tens of grams in the lab.

It appears cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine might be ingredients in Kevlar and some nylons, such as the PA-6 family.


2DPA-1 is insoluble in conventional organic solvents and water, but is soluble in strong acid (trifluoroacetic acid, pK a = 0.3) to form a clear solution. Nanofilms can then be formed on flat substrates with a simple spin coating (Fig. 4a). These films are precisely adjustable in thickness and their size is limited only by the size of the spin coater. In addition, the films can also be easily transferred to different substrates (silicon wafers with microporous structures or copper foils with openings) (Fig. 4b), or repeatedly stacked to show clear and uniform interference colors ( Figure 4c). In order to better demonstrate the transferability of the film, the authors prepared and transferred a film with a diameter of 6 inches and a thickness of 7 nanometers. 4e). SEM and AFM studies revealed that these spin-coated films produced exceptionally flat surfaces (Fig. 4f), with roughness generally less than 1 nm, and even as low as 0.3 nm. This means that in the micrometer range, the difference between the highest and lowest points of the membrane is only about four molecular heights.

this two-dimensional film is expected to exhibit ultra-high mechanical properties and become a two-dimensional version of Kevlar. The authors used nanoindentation to measure a series of self-supporting nanofilms (Figure 7), and the average Young's modulus of the nanofilms was measured to be 12.7 GPa, which is much higher than that of conventional polymers (2-4 GPa). At the same time, the yield strength of the material is as high as 488 MPa, which is about twice that of conventional structural steel, and the specific strength is about twelve times (simulations show that the density of 2DPA-1 is 1/6 of that of steel).

Notably, the material exhibited good puncture resistance during measurement and could withstand repeated failures without cracking. Whether punching holes on the edges of the membrane (Fig. 7b) or repeatedly piercing the membrane during the measurement (Fig. 7c–d) did not affect its mechanical performance. This property has not been observed in common 2D materials such as graphene.

It was found that the addition of a small amount of 2D polymer was sufficient to significantly improve the mechanical properties of the fibers. For example, 6.9% volume fraction of 2DPA-1 increases the Young's modulus of PC fibers by 72%; at the same time, the tensile strength also increases from 110 MPa to 185 MPa (Fig. 8c).

So, yea, it's kind of an exciting material.....

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If viable, this could fundamentally transform many industries. What happens when your car only weighs a fraction of its current weight? Will that make batteries more viable as car power sources? Sadly the ccp has almost certainly already stolen this or it could IMO give us a significant military advantage. This is actually an exciting prospect.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Here's the full article from Nature:

https://inf.news/en/science/58a6db9ad86d021d57f743d74c0df4a8.html

Couple of interesting quotes:

The final reaction, using commercially available cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine as reaction raw materials, was carried out in a strong hydrogen bond acceptor solvent such as NMP, and the obtained yellow solid powder was named 2DPA-1 (Fig. 3a). It is worth mentioning that the reaction is carried out at room temperature and normal pressure, and the operation is simple and convenient. It only needs to simply mix and stir the reactants, even without strict anhydrous and oxygen-free operation. Easily scale up to tens of grams in the lab.

It appears cheap trimesoyl chloride and melamine might be ingredients in Kevlar and some nylons, such as the PA-6 family.


2DPA-1 is insoluble in conventional organic solvents and water, but is soluble in strong acid (trifluoroacetic acid, pK a = 0.3) to form a clear solution. Nanofilms can then be formed on flat substrates with a simple spin coating (Fig. 4a). These films are precisely adjustable in thickness and their size is limited only by the size of the spin coater. In addition, the films can also be easily transferred to different substrates (silicon wafers with microporous structures or copper foils with openings) (Fig. 4b), or repeatedly stacked to show clear and uniform interference colors ( Figure 4c). In order to better demonstrate the transferability of the film, the authors prepared and transferred a film with a diameter of 6 inches and a thickness of 7 nanometers. 4e). SEM and AFM studies revealed that these spin-coated films produced exceptionally flat surfaces (Fig. 4f), with roughness generally less than 1 nm, and even as low as 0.3 nm. This means that in the micrometer range, the difference between the highest and lowest points of the membrane is only about four molecular heights.

this two-dimensional film is expected to exhibit ultra-high mechanical properties and become a two-dimensional version of Kevlar. The authors used nanoindentation to measure a series of self-supporting nanofilms (Figure 7), and the average Young's modulus of the nanofilms was measured to be 12.7 GPa, which is much higher than that of conventional polymers (2-4 GPa). At the same time, the yield strength of the material is as high as 488 MPa, which is about twice that of conventional structural steel, and the specific strength is about twelve times (simulations show that the density of 2DPA-1 is 1/6 of that of steel).

Notably, the material exhibited good puncture resistance during measurement and could withstand repeated failures without cracking. Whether punching holes on the edges of the membrane (Fig. 7b) or repeatedly piercing the membrane during the measurement (Fig. 7c–d) did not affect its mechanical performance. This property has not been observed in common 2D materials such as graphene.

It was found that the addition of a small amount of 2D polymer was sufficient to significantly improve the mechanical properties of the fibers. For example, 6.9% volume fraction of 2DPA-1 increases the Young's modulus of PC fibers by 72%; at the same time, the tensile strength also increases from 110 MPa to 185 MPa (Fig. 8c).

So, yea, it's kind of an exciting material.....


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It’ll hold up a train!

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Does this sound like Ice, the bulding material in Clarke's "The City and the Stars"? Strong and cheap enough to make a city that covered the Earth.

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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
If viable, this could fundamentally transform many industries. What happens when your car only weighs a fraction of its current weight? Will that make batteries more viable as car power sources? Sadly the ccp has almost certainly already stolen this or it could IMO give us a significant military advantage. This is actually an exciting prospect.
It's entirely possible that Chinese researchers working for MIT invented it and China got it before MIT did. A lot of US inventions have been made by Chinese students and professors in our colleges.


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My best guess is it's something like this, but 7x to 10x stronger, depending on how you measure it




But if they can figure out how to mimic the same process with something like this, then maybe you can have your cities in the sky:



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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
If viable, this could fundamentally transform many industries. What happens when your car only weighs a fraction of its current weight? Will that make batteries more viable as car power sources? Sadly the ccp has almost certainly already stolen this or it could IMO give us a significant military advantage. This is actually an exciting prospect.
It's entirely possible that Chinese researchers working for MIT invented it and China got it before MIT did. A lot of US inventions have been made by Chinese students and professors in our colleges.


China's significantly behind us in the materials research and production. The best stuff in made right here in the USA, followed by France.


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