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I do like the PM but the Carlson 3 pack is a good buy.


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Where do you guys buy your waterfowl gear? I'm on the hunt for some choke tubes and neoprene waders now. I've used cabelas and Rogers at this point.

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Rogers, wing supply, cabelas, I buy calls and decoys through my self

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Originally Posted by Jamesd1187
Troutfly, in my opinion the teal steel isn't that great. Locally it was priced higher than faststeel. Pick up some faststeel in your favorite shot charge loaded with 4's and you pretty well have it beat. Particularly here in Canada where there are no teal only seasons that I am aware of. I like 2 3/4" 1-1/8 ounce loads for 90% of my waterfowling, even geese.



Thanks for the feedback.
I found it at Bass Pro in Calgary for under $20.00
Picked up a box of 5's and 6's to try.
I am not aware of any Teal only seasons here either.
Had read a bit about it and got curious enough to give it a try next year.
My sons both shoot the Faststeel and like the results.
My preferred load in Black Cloud is the 2 3/4 #4 shot.
For geese I use BC BB 3 inch though. I pick it up on sale as it isn't cheap ammo.

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I have been really pleased with the Rio Bluesteel for the past couple of seasons.
They burn clean and pack a punch.

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A little off topic. Tried Fed Speed-Shok #4 steel on a couple of farmed pheasant with my 20ga. Knocks 'em cold! I'd estimate the distance at 30 yds over a flusher. And they pattern well in my Wingmaster. Happy camper!

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Hand loaded Hevi-Shot, #6 for ducks and #4 for geese.


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I prefer the Federal Speed Shok, 3" #2s or 3s. They shoot great out of my Benelli M1 with Briley extended chokes.

I'm too cheap to shoot Hevishot or Hevisteel.



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Well, strangely enough, though I don't have much opportunity for ducks and geese, I know what I'd use.

We have public lands here in Iowa where non-toxic is required even if just pheasant hunting. I came upon Kent Tungsten Matrix, which is somewhat spendy, but what isn't that's any good? it has a density just below lead's 11.34 g/cm3; IRRC, about 10.-something. It's also of enough polymer, that it's "soft" and safe for vintage guns and tighter chokes like lead is.

Their 12 ga. load scoots 1 1/4 oz out at 1525 fps and due to its density, it smacks birds like lead. Kent also offers this in about all the usual gauges.

In the Midwest I look to Mack's Praire Wings in Stuttgart, Arkansas for the stuff.

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Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd

Well, strangely enough, though I don't have much opportunity for ducks and geese, I know what I'd use.

We have public lands here in Iowa where non-toxic is required even if just pheasant hunting. I came upon Kent Tungsten Matrix, which is somewhat spendy, but what isn't that's any good? it has a density just below lead's 11.34 g/cm3; IRRC, about 10.-something. It's also of enough polymer, that it's "soft" and safe for vintage guns and tighter chokes like lead is.

Their 12 ga. load scoots 1 1/4 oz out at 1525 fps and due to its density, it smacks birds like lead. Kent also offers this in about all the usual gauges.

In the Midwest I look to Mack's Praire Wings in Stuttgart, Arkansas for the stuff.


That looks like really good stuff, but I need 3 cases and my boss will kill me if I spend $1200 on shells.

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Kent Faststeel 3" 1 1/4 oz #2's for ducks with my Benelli M2 and improved cyl. I've done as well with 2 3/4" 1 1/16 #2 handloads. For geese, I like Winchester Supreme BB's. and modified choke. If I can afford it, I really like Hevi Shot #2's for geese.

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boss #4 in my 20 gauge.

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We buy most of our ammo and gear at Mack’s Prarie Wings. The shell of choice among the group, and myself, is the 3” Winchester Blind Side, in #2s. The seem to work particularly well on ducks that are not decoying, and just passing through. We have been known to shoot Kents and Federal Black Clouds, both in #2s, from time to time.

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Remington Nitro Steel or Federal blue or red box. I shoot a variety of shot sizes, in multiple shotguns.

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HeviMetal 3" #2 followed by Black Cloud 3" #2


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Winchester Drylocks have always worked well for me, but try a few brand with your gun to see which ones pattern the best. Good luck!

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It looks like the price set point for a case of "cheap" steel duck loads is going to be around $200, stuff we were buying at $89-119/ case a few years ago.

Given that bump, boss and the other premium shells get more and more appealing, as their price isn't that far off.

I shot 2.5 cases at ducks this year (we had a great season) and am about to begin a 6 day trip for snow geese. I've loaded up the trailer with 8 cases, I hope I get to shoot half of them.

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Most anything NOT EnviroMetal/Hevi, blindside, or that super speed nitro. Not really even a fan of black cloud. Give me a quality, conventional steel load, at sane pressure curves, and I’m happy. The Migra steel and BOSS bismuth shells have been very good and good value, comparatively. Kent and Fiocchi are two of my standard steel brands. Rio is good. I feel most are better than Federal and Winchester these days.

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I have been noticing the BIG price increase in steel shot shells for this season. That and the fact that they are hard to come by.
Does anyone think the price will come back down or is this the new norm?


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