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i built a rifle in 7mm-08 before any gun manufacture ever chambered one its a great cartridge , i also own a few 6.5 Creedmoor`s and a 257 Creedmoor both are great cartridges too. but i have decided for my family grandson , granddaughter ,wife and daughter are going to all use the same cartridge so its simpler for them and myself , i even have had a rifle chambered with a new Brux barrel in a 257 Roberts so we all have the same grand old cartridge the 257 Roberts . The 257 Roberts may be a cartridge from the past but it will hang with the new cartridges i have mentioned , mine and my daughters have a 7 1/2 twist Brux barrels . these two rifles with the 7 1/2 twist 257 Roberts just might have a little better ballistic when shooting 135 VLD Berger bullets . sometimes an old toy is fun too and can do as well as a new toy , besides you can not buy a Winchester model 70 pre 64 in a 6.5 Creedmoor or a 7mm - 08 in this fine old rifle but you still can find a rifle with history a Winchester model 70 pre 64 in a 257 Roberts or a 7 x 57 Mauser both have value and are a great old rifles ! good luck with your choice all are good cartridges , Pete53


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I don't see much difference in deer kills with the Creed, Swede, 7-08 or Roberts.

Bottom line is about the same, deer hanging in the skinning shed.

Now, as a Loony, I do like to split hairs....

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I don't see much difference in deer kills with the Creed, Swede, 7-08 or Roberts.

Bottom line is about the same, deer hanging in the skinning shed.

Now, as a Loony, I do like to split hairs....

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Just about anything works on deer. Including .224 cal and even rimfires. No need to split hairs in this case.. I have a buddy that only uses his trusty 22-250 on deer and it flattens them.


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I like them both, but I chose the 7mm-08. In Kentucky, my state of residence, they have a minimum .277 caliber requirement for elk. Although I believe that with good shot placement, the 6.5 would do the job, it would not be legal in my state in the event I get drawn for the elusive Kentucky elk tag.


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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
Just bought a 7mm-08 going to experiment with that for a while.



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Originally Posted by HCDH66
I like them both, but I chose the 7mm-08. In Kentucky, my state of residence, they have a minimum .277 caliber requirement for elk. Although I believe that with good shot placement, the 6.5 would do the job, it would not be legal in my state in the event I get drawn for the elusive Kentucky elk tag.


Some game regs are simply dumb. A 7mm-08 is good to go, but a 6.5-300 Weatherby is inadequate by rule. crazy


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Originally Posted by HCDH66
I like them both, but I chose the 7mm-08. In Kentucky, my state of residence, they have a minimum .277 caliber requirement for elk. Although I believe that with good shot placement, the 6.5 would do the job, it would not be legal in my state in the event I get drawn for the elusive Kentucky elk tag.


Some game regs are simply dumb. A 7mm-08 is good to go, but a 6.5-300 Weatherby is inadequate by rule. crazy


and the 30 -30 is ok too sometimes i wonder who makes the law/rules ? common sense just doesn`t always apply


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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by HCDH66
I like them both, but I chose the 7mm-08. In Kentucky, my state of residence, they have a minimum .277 caliber requirement for elk. Although I believe that with good shot placement, the 6.5 would do the job, it would not be legal in my state in the event I get drawn for the elusive Kentucky elk tag.


Some game regs are simply dumb. A 7mm-08 is good to go, but a 6.5-300 Weatherby is inadequate by rule. crazy


Agreed. But that reg made the final deciding factor in my decision.

On another note, I have really liked the 7mm-08. My particular rifle shoots great with Hornady 139 gr. GMX in factory ammo. My son and I have taken 9 deer with it.


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I have two Tikkas in 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor. They are both excellent hunting rifles but I prefer the 7mm-08 for deer hunting.

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Originally Posted by ndh19
Thanks for all the info. Grand daughter turned 12 Friday and said she is ready to learn gun safety and start shooting. As soon as our cold winter breaks we'll head to the range and start burning 22lr. We can go 223 rem ,6.5cm , and 270 win from there until she finds a load she is comfortable shooting. then Grandma can pop for a new rifle. (I hope not pink). I'm thinking reduced creedmoor loads since I already reload and have a rifle she can shoot. Again , thanks for all the imput , NDH


You're right on track. Shoot as much 22 lr as she can stand. It's the best introduction to shooting there is. To keep with the original post In my opinion the Creedmoor recoils less and has less muzzle flash than the 7-08.

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Originally Posted by winfw01
I have two Tikkas in 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor. They are both excellent hunting rifles but I prefer the 7mm-08 for deer hunting.

I shoot a 7mm08. Im interested in why you favor the 7mm08 for deer hunting. Since you have both chamberings in the same rifle I would value your opinion.


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I also have 2 Tikka's in both 7mm-08 (T3 in a McMillan Sako Hunter stock) and 6.5 CM (T3x Superlite in a B&C Medalist stock). I like both rifles equally well but IF I had to make a choice of one cal. I too would choose the 7mm-08 over the CM.

My Tikka's both shoot the same accuracy wise and at the distances I shoot for almost all of my hunting (which is 300 yds max.) I think the 7mm-08 is a more versatile cal. based on bullet weights alone, especially for game larger than deer.

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I have 2 daughters myself. The older one is a brute and the younger is kind of petite. My oldest was firing a .270 by that age, but I consider her an exception to the rule. I think I would go for the lower recoil. I think she would enjoy shooting it more and there isn't a ton of difference. I just bought a 350 legend for my 9 year old. 20% less recoil than a .243 and you can sling 150-180 grain. You might want to look into the 350 also.

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I’ve raised 7 hunters. 4 girls and 3 boys. First granddaughter just arrived...grin!!

My oldest boy killed his first doe the day before he turned 5. Most everyone else started close to the same age.

We started with BB guns - my youngest son cut his teeth shooting red wasps down by the stock tank when they’d come to water. He started earholing them to up the challenge, and we’ve all seen him hit them in the air with a little daisy. The kid can shoot.

He, and all the rest started with 4 power scopes on .22’s and worked up to .223’s.

They’ve literally killed hundreds of deer among them with .223’s running 55, 62 and 70 grain Barnes TSX’s, and quite a few 60g Partitions.

We drill shoulders and have stopped all of 2 bullets over the years and they’ve never lost a deer shooting .223’s. Central TX and some big south Texas Whitetail included. Mostly does, spikes and quite a few mature bucks - culls and trophy deer.

The only really bad shots came as we moved up to larger cartridges, although we did have a couple of follow up/tracking jobs on longer shots that were slightly back with .223’s - one because of wind, one a deflection off brush, and one from good ole buck fever - but we found them all.

I love the 7-08 - my go to for years. I’ve also got a couple of 6.5’s I really like.

However, I wouldn’t let a young (or even older) first time hunter use either if I had access to a .223 that shot TSX’s of any weight well and my shots were under 200 yards.

There’s no substitute for the confidence gained with years shooting .223’s with premium Bullets.

Whatever you use - protect their ears at all costs. That’s what will make them flinch.

Go with the best bullet and lowest recoil combination that makes sense. I like the fast .223 with a premium bullet at reasonable ranges. No recoil and good results come easy.

Best of success to you, and may God bless the time you spend hunting with kids.

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I haven’t read through everything, but I find myself looking to get into lighter recoil guns, due to a shoulder replacement. When it comes to recoil it appears 6.5 is little lighter in terms of energy but does that translate to felt recoil as well?
Also for elk size game, are either adequate?

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I had this issue and started my 7 YO with a .223. First with 64 Nosler Bonded Solid Base and now with 55 Hornady SP with cannelure. The .223 works fine with either and the 64 Nosler is one TOUGH bullet. Two of my kids have hunted with the Nosler as have I and it expands and then penetrates like crazy. I would not feel handicapped hunting cow elk with that bullet in a .223.

I let my son shoot a .243 the other day and he handled it fine but he's doing so well with his LH .223, I'm not going to rock the boat. I think he's killed four pigs in the last month with it.

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I guess I’m really not sure how this is a serious question.

If you’re a hand loader and have a chit-ton of 7-08 components, it’s your huckleberry.

If you’re a hand loader and have a chit-ton of 6.5 cm components, it’s your huckleberry.

If you’re not a hand loader, the 6.5 cm is your huckleberry.

If you want the lightest possible recoil between the two, the 6.5 cm is your huckleberry.

It’s simple - find out what’s your huckleberry.


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Originally Posted by Brad
I guess I’m really not sure how this is a serious question.

If you’re a hand loader and have a chit-ton of 7-08 components, it’s your huckleberry.

If you’re a hand loader and have a chit-ton of 6.5 cm components, it’s your huckleberry.

If you’re not a hand loader, the 6.5 cm is your huckleberry.

If you want the lightest possible recoil between the two, the 6.5 cm is your huckleberry.

It’s simple - find out what’s your huckleberry.

That answered my question!

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Originally Posted by hanco
Use the Creed , load it down with H-4895, increase wider as she gets older. She a little thing even now.

Granddaughter started with a loaded down 243 at 7 yrs old.




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My daughters have 7mm-08’s and have killed a lot of game with them. I agree with a lot of guys here that they are so similar go with the best deal and ammo availability.

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