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Hotrod gets it.
Anyone remember the Glomar Challenger which was supposed to be deep ocean oil drilling? That was to pick up a Commie nuke boat for spying/status checking the Soviet nuke fleet.

I'd bet there was a stealthy attack boat on station within hours and the crash location sensored up so a plankton couldn't float by without being recorded.


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Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


lol.......the bright side is seawater immersion should get rid of any smoke smell.............


As well as that New Car Smell.


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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!

China's too busy for that right now. They're busy reverse engineering all the latest and greatest military technology gizmos that we left for them in Afghanistan.

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Bet that was a cool recovery. Watched this video about the recovery (theft?) of the Soviet K-129. Project Azorian I think. Fascinating stuff.

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Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!



Yes the fallback plan for B29s that were bombing Japan was, if they couldn't make it back to a US base, was for them to land in our ally, Russia. And more than one did. The Russians began building their new fleet of bombers, an exact copy of the B29.

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Did they salvage the pilot’s career?


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
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They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!



Yes the fallback plan for B29s that were bombing Japan was, if they couldn't make it back to a US base, was for them to land in our ally, Russia. And more than one did. The Russians began building their new fleet of bombers, an exact copy of the B29.


Yep, the Russkies interred the ships and crews. Later they made a rivet-for-rivet copy at the behest of Stalin.

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One of their biggest challenges in copying the B-29 was the differences in the metric size sheet metal they had available versus the English measure sheet metal in the original.

They did the same thing with an unexploded Taiwanese Sidewinder missile that got stuck in the tail end of a Chinese MIG during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis in 1958. It became the Soviet AA-2 "Atoll", and the Chinese PL-2.


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


lol.......the bright side is seawater immersion should get rid of any smoke smell.............


Still gonna smell like fish.


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Originally Posted by Beoceorl
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Can anything useful be salvaged or are they just going to melt it down?


The recovery wasn't for reusing parts. It was to keep anyone else from getting a sample of the technology.

And by anyone else means the Chinese.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Did they salvage the pilot’s career?


He's done.

I got out 21 years ago and he'd have been done then. I doubt it's changed now.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
I wish they would release the name of the pilot. I wonder if it is the sister of Kara Hultgreen.



No, it’s a male. I had several of his simulator training events and ground school classes with him. He was a good student and did well in his training here. That’s why he got F-35s.
He’ll have a Fleet Naval Aviator Evaluation Board (FNAEB) and either,
1-keep his wings and continue as if nothing happened,
2-keep his wings and be moved to another unit or another aircraft,
3-lose his wings and be removed from a flying status.

My guess….first two are unlikely due to the high profile of this mishap.

Flying around the boat is very unforgiving of even small mistakes.

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Originally Posted by cas6969
I was part of the recover operations, but of course it's sensitive classified stuff, so I'm not really able to talk about it.






It wasn't easy holding my breath that long, I'll tell you that.






Luckily she started right up and I was able to fly her out.
why not ,Chuck Norris did the same thing with a buried 4 X4 in Lone Wolf McQuade


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Originally Posted by cas6969
I was part of the recover operations, but of course it's sensitive classified stuff, so I'm not really able to talk about it.






It wasn't easy holding my breath that long, I'll tell you that.






Luckily she started right up and I was able to fly her out.





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Originally Posted by mathman
3 - forever be "that guy" wherever he is assigned

Once had a battlestaff commander who was a naval captain. Rumor was that he splashed an airplane. When asked he admitted to the incident but declined to elaborate.

Hell, how many aircraft did McLame ding up?

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There's a huge difference between bending an airplane on a combat mission versus doing the same damage on a training flight. In combat, almost anything can and will be forgiven. In training, almost nothing is.


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Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
how many aircraft did McLame ding up?


Four or five, but when Daddy's the big boss, who's counting?


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