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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I didn't know the term and the way it was explained to me was that Russia will run out of supplies/materiel within 14 days. That could change if they get supplied by China, I suppose.


Thanks OSU. It will be an interesting month ahead of us.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I didn't know the term and the way it was explained to me was that Russia will run out of supplies/materiel within 14 days. That could change if they get supplied by China, I suppose.


The truth is the 60,000 Ukranian Army is cut off in the east end of the country and hasnt supplies to get out to fight even if they wanted to die.

The Ruskies are moving slowly and precisely to take out military targets and Asov Neonazi mercenaries.

Bidet is flooding the US with similar mercenaries through the southern border and flying them in from moslem nations with plans to have them shut this country down either this summer when Durham reveals the bad schiett about the US cabal including Zero, Piglosi, Kilery, Biden, etc when they shut down the internet and to riot and have anarchy this fall keep people from voting.


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List of officers..

And just broke 1500 pieces Russian equipment destroyed or captured.
This is just whats photographed and video of... the real number is much higher!


1. Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky, Deputy Commander, 41st Combined Arms Army, Central Military District (killed Feb 28)
2. Major General Vitaly Gerasimov, Chief of Staff , 41st Combined Arms Army, Central Military District (killed Mar 8)
3. Major General Andrei Kolesnikov, Commander, 29th Combined Arms Army, Eastern Military District (killed Mar 11)
4. Major General Oleg Mitayev, Commander, 150th Motorized Division (Novocherkassk) (killed Mar 15)
5. Chechen general Magomed Tushayev, 141st Rosgvardia Chechen Guard (disputed Mar 1)
6. Colonel Viktor Ivanovich Isaikin (killed Mar 2)
7. Colonel Konstantin Ogiy, Head of Kemerovo SOBR unit (killed Feb 28)
8. Colonel Konstantin Zizevski, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment (killed Mar 5)
9. Colonel Sergey Karasev, Commander, 31st Guards Air Assault Brigade (Ulyanovsk) (Killed Mar 11)
10. Colonel Yuri Agrakov, Commander, 104th VDV Regiment, 76th Guards Airborne Division. (killed Mar 8)
11. Colonel Andrei Zakharov, Battalion-tactical group Commander, 6th Tank Regiment (Chebarkul) , 90th Tank division (killed Mar 10) (given Order of Courage in 2016)
12. Colonel Sergei Sukharev, Commander, 331st VDV Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Airborne Division (killed Mar 17)
13. Colonel Igor Nikolaev, Commander, 3rd Motor Rifle Division (Valuyki) (killed Mar 16)
14. Colonel Sergei Ivanovich Porokhnya, Commander, 12th Engineering Brigade (killed)
15. Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Sofronov, Commander of the 61st Separate Marine Brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, (killed Mar 5)
16. Lieutenant Colonel Denis Glebov, Deputy Commander of the 11th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade (killed Mar 5, given Order of Courage)
17. Lieutenant Colonel Okruzhnov Alexander Nikolaevich, head of artillery, 104th VDV Regiment, 76th Airborne Division (killed Mar 7)
18. Lieutenant Colonel Alexey Narzullaevich Khasanov, deputy commander, 31st Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment (pilot, Su-30SM, killed Mar 5)
19. Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Chervov, Deputy Commander, Aviation Regiment (Voronezh) (Pilot, Su-25, killed Mar 7)
20. Vladimir Zhoga, warlord, Sparta Battalion (Lt Col equivalent?) (killed Mar 5)
21. Major Andrei Petrovich Burlakov, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Russian Secret Service, Chief of Intelligence of Regiment, Rosgvardia (killed Mar 10)
22. Major Ruslan Leonov, Spetsnaz company commander (killed Mar 10)
23. Major Alexei Ilnitsky, deputy battalion commander, VDV 11th Air Assault Brigade (Ulan-Ude) (killed, given Order of Courage)
24. Major Bezborodov Dmitry Valeryevich, Rosgvardiya battalion commander (killed)
25. Major Vorsyuchenko Alexey Vasilyevich, VDV Unit #81430 HQ, 76th Airborne SAM Regiment (killed)
26. Major Dmity Bezborodov Bezzhizninski, Operational Battalion Commander, Rosgvardia (killed)
27. Major Alexander Sergeevich Fedorov, Chief of Communications and Deputy Chief of Staff of Unit #47130, 103rd Rocket Brigade (Ulan-Ude, Divizionnaya station) (killed Mar 15)
28. Major Dmitry Bezborodov, Commander, Operation Battalion, Rosgvardia (killed)
29. Major Ruslan Vladimirovich Petrukhin, Deputy Commander, 38th Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Brigade, 35th Army, Eastern Military District (killed Mar 11)
30. Major Sergei Krylov, Deputy Commander, 331st VDV Guards Airborne Regiment (Kostroma), 98th Airborne Division (killed Mar 17)
31. Captain Maklagin Vyacheslav Vyacheslavovich (killed Feb 25, given Order of Courage)
32. Captain Aleksey Aleksandrovich Chuchmanov, GRU/GU 3rd SpetsNaz Brigade (Tolyatti) (killed Mar 3, 2022)
33. Captain Yevgeny Ivanov, platoon commander, Russian 247th Guards Assault Caucasian Cossack Regiment (killed)
34. Captain Sergei Aleksandrovich Visyach (killed)
35. Captain Alexey Glushchak, GRU/GU 22nd Spetsnaz Brigade (killed, given Order of Courage)
36. Captain Ilya Kuptsov, VDV 76th Air Assault Division (Pskov) (killed)
37. Captain Ivan Sergeevich Afanasyev (Pilot, Ka-52?, killed)
38. Senior Lieutenant Alexei Aleshko, Military Intelligence Officer (killed Mar 10)
39. Senior Lieutenant Andrei Shamko, VDV, GRU/GU 2nd Spetsnaz Brigade (Pskov) (killed)
40. Senior Lieutenant Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov, company commander, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment (killed, given Hero of Russia)
41. Senior Lieutenant Nikolai Shumitsky, Tank Company Commander, 81st Tank Battalion, 42nd Motorized Rifle Division (killed, given Order of Courage)
42. Senior Lieutenant Sergey Dorokhov, Rosgvardia SOBR team member (Vologda) (killed)
43. Senior Lieutenant Aleksey Aleshko, Platoon Commander, VDV, RVVDKU graduate. (killed Feb 25, given Order of Courage)
44. Senior Lieutenant Nikita Ivanovich Perfilov, VKS Russian Aerospace Forces (killed Mar 6)
45. Senior Lieutenant Lazarenko Alexander Alexandrovich (killed, given Order of Courage)
46. Senior Lieutenant Nikolai Symov, 331st VDV Airborne Regiment (killed)
47. Senior Lieutenant Sukhovskoy Semyon Mikhailovich, Company Commander, 234th Air Assault Regiment, VDV 76th Guards Air Assault Division (killed Mar 5)
48. Senior Lieutenant Sergei Zuykov Alekseevich, Rosgvardia (killed, given Order of Courage)
49. Lieutenant Alexander Osipov, VDV (killed)
50. Lieutenant Georgy Alexandrovich Dudorov, Deputy Commander, Military-Political Affairs, Recon company, 137th Airborne Regiment, 106th VDV Airborne Division
51. Lieutenant Alexander Lebedev (killed)
52. Lieutenant Vitaly Olegovich Golub , Platoon Commander, 20th Guards Motorized Rifle Division, 8th Guards Combined Arms Army (Volgograd) (killed, given Order of Courage)
53. Separatist Taras "Clooney" Gordienko, Commander, B-2 Anti-tank group (killed Mar 14)
54. Lieutenant Dmitry Chernyshev, VDV 247th Air Assault Regiment (killed, given Order of Courage)
55. Lieutenant Daniil Dmitreievich Kurin, Reconnaissance Platoon Commander, 34th Mountain Motorized Rifle Brigade (killed, March 3)
56. Lieutenant Georgy Dudorov, Deputy Commander, Reconnaissance Company, 137th Airborne Regiment, 106th Guards Airborne Division (Tula) (killed Mar 6)
57. Lieutenant Colonel, 247th Guards Air Assault Regiment 47th Bomber Aviation Regiment, 105th Guards Mixed Aviation Division (Pilot, Su-34, captured)
58. Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich, (Pilot , Su-30, captured)
59. Lieutenant Colonel Astakhov Dmitry Mikhailovich, Rosgvardia (captured)
60. Major Schetkin Leonid Petrovich, Commander and chief of staff, 35th Motorized Rifle Brigade, 41st Combined Arms Army (captured Feb 26)

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Originally Posted by jaguartx

The truth is the 60,000 Ukranian Army is cut off in the east end of the country and hasnt supplies to get out to fight even if they wanted to die.

The truth is you have no idea what the truth is.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx


The Ruskies are moving slowly and precisely to take out military targets and Asov Neonazi mercenaries.
and to riot and have anarchy this fall keep people from voting.


Um, they've been regular troops for years. Their existence is no more Russia's business than our prison population neo-nazis are Canada's problem.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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For those that might interested, the OP thread subject concerns Russian Generals being zapped to the tune of 4 and counting, yet to be disproven.


Just for the record I don’t believe anyone was attempting to DISprove anything, but only to point out that after so much disinformation spreading by corp press these last several years a considerable amount of skepticism with regard to their assertions may be in order.

Again please show me where someone in this thread said otherwise.

Can you understand why people might think you’re playing games the way you re-frame arguments to sound as tho you’re right?

This is the second post of yours on this page that is demonstrably false.



Most people do “frame” discussions to prove that they are right just like you’re doing now.

I doubt that you can see that clearly.

If you have such deep skepticisms please post relative sources to support that of which the OP stated as being fake news.

If I may borrow from you, Your above post is demonstrably false,

He never posts any thing but his weird ramblings.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx

The Ruskies are moving slowly and precisely to take out military targets and Asov Neonazi mercenaries.

Did you just get that from the bat phone.

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some people here belong in a mental asylum. This is not meant in a bad way.

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If they get low on officers, we might let them have some of our woke ones.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx

The Ruskies are moving slowly and precisely to take out military targets and Asov Neonazi mercenaries.

Did you just get that from the bat phone.


Today AZOV took out 4 Tanks, 3 AFV and a company of troops in a single engagement.



Number of "Nazis" in AZOV is sub 10% these days.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I didn't know the term and the way it was explained to me was that Russia will run out of supplies/materiel within 14 days. That could change if they get supplied by China, I suppose.


new one on me too, wiki says:

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The culminating point in military strategy is the point at which a military force is no longer able to perform its operations.[1]

On the offensive, the culminating point marks the time when the attacking force can no longer continue its advance, because of supply problems, the opposing force, or the need for rest.[2] The task of the attacker is to complete its objectives before the culminating point is reached. The task of the defender on the other hand, is to bring the attacking force to its culminating point before its objectives are completed.[3]

The concept of a culminating point was formulated by the Prussian general and military theorist Carl von Clausewitz in his book On War published in 1832.


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...Actually Sycamore, you are sort of right....
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Originally Posted by Raferman
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#myheroscantbeneonazis


https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-at...-two-apcs-company-of-enemy-infantry.html

They are surrounded, and probably sees the most combat of anybody in Ukraine.


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I want to make sure I have this right: since there are allegedly some "Nazis" in the Azov Battalion, Ukraine has no right to self defense from an aggressive invader?

That the logic?

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Originally Posted by Northman
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Originally Posted by jaguartx

The Ruskies are moving slowly and precisely to take out military targets and Asov Neonazi mercenaries.

Did you just get that from the bat phone.


Today AZOV took out 4 Tanks, 3 AFV and a company of troops in a single engagement.



Number of "Nazis" in AZOV is sub 10% these days.


That sucks. I hope that is fake news. The more Nazis the better

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The MSM lies on a regular basis = credible argument


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Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I didn't know the term and the way it was explained to me was that Russia will run out of supplies/materiel within 14 days. That could change if they get supplied by China, I suppose.


new one on me too, wiki says:

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The culminating point in military strategy is the point at which a military force is no longer able to perform its operations.[1]

On the offensive, the culminating point marks the time when the attacking force can no longer continue its advance, because of supply problems, the opposing force, or the need for rest.[2] The task of the attacker is to complete its objectives before the culminating point is reached. The task of the defender on the other hand, is to bring the attacking force to its culminating point before its objectives are completed.[3]

The concept of a culminating point was formulated by the Prussian general and military theorist Carl von Clausewitz in his book On War published in 1832.





Sycamore, thanks.

I called a friend of mine who is retired military (colonel) and he said the same as you posted on “culmination”.

His shop talk with old cronies leans toward Putin’s removal and him not going quietly into the night or exiling. They felt that Putin’s being declared a War Criminal will cause even more sanctions and deeper hardships on the Russian people.

He also said that both countries are politically rotten to the core as many here have said. No secret there.

We shall see.

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I can easily believe that four generals have been killed. Russian duties for a general are not the same as our generals. Russian generals are doing jobs that a major to a colonel would do in the US Army. Russian generals lead in the field. A Russian general would have several stars before he’d be doing the job of a one star US general.


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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
I can easily believe that four generals have been killed. Russian duties for a general are not the same as our generals. Russian generals are doing jobs that a major to a colonel would do in the US Army. Russian generals lead in the field. A Russian general would have several stars before he’d be doing the job of a one star US general.


In the US, a battalion commander is a LtCol, a regiment/brigade commander is a Col. A division commander is a 1 or 2 star. A logistics element would be commanded by a 1 star. A task force could be commanded by a 1 star. What do you think they do, lead over skype? The combat operations center for an invading force is going to be in proximity to the front, and will move with the bulk of the unit. If the unit is having problems, the commanding officers including 1 and 2 stars are going to have to inspect the unit and direct movements. The more jacked up, the more the involvement. The Russian invasion is a calamity. Their logistics problems cannot be explained except by ineptitude of the highest level. Individual generals that are competent must be frustrated beyond belief and will need to make sure their units are functioning as they intend. Therefore, it is completely understandable why they are taking casualties among general officers.

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Most people do “frame” discussions to prove that they are right just like you’re doing now.


No they don't.


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