|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351 |
What is a good load for a sharps in 45-70 using a 405 grain cast bullets? I have IMR 4227, IMR 4064, 4831, and IMR 4350. thanks
tom
"if it's got tits or tires, it's going to give you grief, one way or another."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 |
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,082
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,082 |
Pump, H4895 is one of the powders you want to try for moderate velocity in a mid-capacity black powder case. I am guessing that the low 40's or so for a charge. I have shot a boat load of H4895 in my 40-70ss with some jacketed bullets and it performed nicely. Those charges got into the 50gr range.
You might also investigate IMR 4759, I use it a lot in reduced loads for my 300 win mag while my neck is recovering from having a titanium plate installed.
5744 is also rumored to be useful at the slow end of big cases. I have not used it myself but there are lots of loads listed for it and there is a guy who took a Sharps to Africa for plains game and he loaded his rifle with black powder equivalent loads using 5744.
SS
Josh
No words of mine can hope to convey to you the ringing joy and hope embodied in that spontaneous yell: �The Americans are coming; at last they are coming!�
I hadn�t the heart to disillusion them.
John "Pondoro" Taylor
Africa 1955
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269 |
Reloder 7 is very good for 45-70
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish! ![[Linked Image]](http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/EvilTwinMar/Sabretooth-1.jpg)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351
Campfire Tracker
|
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351 |
I went to hogdon's online loading manual last night. they give a load using 405 cast bullets with imr 4064 between 46 and 49.5 grains with mv of 1534-1690. now this was a trapdoor load not a sharps load. tom
"if it's got tits or tires, it's going to give you grief, one way or another."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303 |
Sharps .45-70 is vague, and very non-specific....it is it a real American Sharps,C. Sharps, Shilo, Scheutzen Guns, A very good quality Pedersoli,.....
....or something else?
What "Sharps" are we talking about.My guess is that it's marked "Black Powder only"
Real important that folks know, before starting to toss out load data like Mardi Gras beads, ....
5744 dittos, with a real bad case of ".458 Lott performance desired" heebie-jeebies on this particular subject......
Why in the hell do people buy BPCRs to shoot white powder out of anyways.
wierd, and way dangerous.
GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats
-- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269 |
Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid ad triarios redisse My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351
Campfire Tracker
|
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351 |
Yes it is a taylor & Co sharps. Les and I did a trade this weekend. Been wanting one since the first time I saw Quigley down under.  tom
"if it's got tits or tires, it's going to give you grief, one way or another."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303
Campfire Kahuna
|
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 53,303 |
One thing that should be agreed on anyways, is that the 4350 and 4831 are a real BAD idea in cases this large.
Having encountered some exceptionally tight barrels from Italian firms, I would do some slugging and chamber casting before dumping anything but a cast bullet into that chamber.
GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats
-- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,082
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,082 |
Ditto and Amen to Crossfire's statement. Those slow burners are great in 300 win mag but might act more like a grenade in a Sharps. I also have not had the courage to use a filler or spacer type wad over the powder with an air space in one of the larger black powder cases. It just smells like trouble.
SS
No words of mine can hope to convey to you the ringing joy and hope embodied in that spontaneous yell: �The Americans are coming; at last they are coming!�
I hadn�t the heart to disillusion them.
John "Pondoro" Taylor
Africa 1955
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351
Campfire Tracker
|
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,351 |
At this point I am planing on sticking with the 405 cast lead. Not planing on doing anything with jacketed bullets. tom
"if it's got tits or tires, it's going to give you grief, one way or another."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,835
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 29,835 |
Why would anyone want to do that to a perfectly good black powder piece. The whole idea is to blow as much smoke as possible and stink up the countryside. Just buy a Ruger #1 or Siamese mauser and have at it. I must admit though that it looked like Quigley was running smokeless. 1Minute
1Minute
|
|
|
|
|
565 members (1lesfox, 10gaugemag, 11point, 007FJ, 12344mag, 160user, 57 invisible),
2,908
guests, and
1,227
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,359
Posts18,468,939
Members73,931
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
