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Happened to be seen these on GunBroker recently I know they've always been some of the best cap and ball pistols and some of the most expensive but holy hell $1,200 to 3,000 what gives us this. And I know just cuz they're priced that doesn't mean they're going to sell for that but
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For another $250 or so you have yourself a .45 Colt too. Midway has the conversion cylinders on sale pretty often. A Belt Mountain replacement base pin simplifies loading a bit. While you’re at it, order the high front sight as well; you’ll need it.
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Unless they start making them again I really doubt the prices will come down much. They are a very nice piece. Have a great day. Jim
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Great and fun revolvers LDH, i gave mine with leather holster and nipple wrench to a damn good forum member here who had some of his black powder revolvers stolen, it was stainless with adjustable rear sight, i wont lie and say i dont miss it sometimes LOL!
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There's a perfect one with 45 colt cylinders local to me for sale.
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There's a perfect one with 45 colt cylinders local to me for sale. What's the price ... ?
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Those are really good guns. Years ago, I sent mine to Dave Clements for his 50 cal conversion. Don't think he does those any more. I did the burl rosewood grips. DF
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Yeah, Dave did a great job on these. That work got pretty expensive, glad I had it done some years ago. DF
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Yeah, Dave did a great job on these. That work got pretty expensive, glad I had it done some years ago. DF I know it's agin the bible, but i've lusted after that 50 Ruger of yours DF ; ]
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Yeah, Dave did a great job on these. That work got pretty expensive, glad I had it done some years ago. DF I know it's agin the bible, but i've lusted after that 50 Ruger of yours DF ; ]
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Yeah, Dave did a great job on these. That work got pretty expensive, glad I had it done some years ago. DF I know it's agin the bible, but i've lusted after that 50 Ruger of yours DF ; ] One can look and lust just don't fondle and touch especially without permission. That could make won't have a stiff finger
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Here's a write up on the Clements 50 cal Ruger OA. I've used the Mt Baldy .488 Conical bullets. They are very accurate and have a good bit of whack.... https://www.gunblast.com/Cumpston_ClementsFugett.htmDF
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Yeah, Dave did a great job on these. That work got pretty expensive, glad I had it done some years ago. DF I know it's agin the bible, but i've lusted after that 50 Ruger of yours DF ; ] One can look and lust just don't fondle and touch especially without permission. That could make won't have a stiff finger My wife tells me that all the time…..😛
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my 5.5” barrel model was one of my prized possessions. stolen by someone who undoubtedly didnt know what he had taken.
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All cap and ball revolvers have gone up in price. Just the crazy times we live in. The Old Army has skyrocketed. I have one in pretty nice condition that I don’t even shoot. But, I wouldn’t sell it, might be able to retire on the sale of it in a few years at the rate things are going.
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Could be it’s a “non-firearm” per BATF regs. :DMaybe slower to load, but holds it own with most center fire hand guns in power. So one can buy a powerful handgun under the radar. That’s a big reason my Clements .50 is a keeper. And those are no longer available. You just don’t see them for sale, at least I haven’t seen one. May have to leave it to gunner in my will. But, he’ll have to get it from my son, who may not be so quick to let it go. DF
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Bought one 2 years ago for 600, it needed some help, right about then a new one showed up in state for 800, wished I had bought that one as well. Changed the sights and used it a year ago to place the finish shot on a moose during a ML hunt. Did the job that I shoulda done the first time with the ML, I was humbled...
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Midway has the Howell conversions on sale now.
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Since David Clements quit making them a while ago and is retiring and Gary Reeder quit making a .475 and .50 ROA and Robert wouldn’t sell me his I finally found one on Gunbroker last night and bought it. It was such a great price I won’t feel bad putting a Ronnie Wells brass Bisley grip frame on it. I talked to David and got all the load info and what mold to use from Accurate Molds and have it on the way. Have to decide on a holster now. This one has been on my bucket list for a while. I did find a smith that will build a .475 or .50 starting at $2800 on your gun
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Congrats.
That's a good one.
Look forward to your load details and performance.
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I started this thread after I bought a brand new in the box pietta 1858 Remington copy. Then realized how high the rugers had gotten. But I'm realizing I got a bargain on my pietta brand new unfired 150 bucks. And I see they do make the conversion cylinders for these also that's pretty cool but I also already own lots of single action cowboy pistols. None of it makes any of this less cool.
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Oh, cool, I just bought one myself but didn't realize you could get a conversion cylinder for only $269. I didn't steal it, but got it for under a $1k. I'm okay with that. I've been deer hunting with a pistol for a few years, off and on, and wanted to revolver hunt during the Kansas's early muzzleloader season. Powder, ball, cap recommendations? It already looks like finding percussion caps is gonna be some work.
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Through the years I've had quite a few of these. Blued, stainless, both 5-1/2"' and 7-1/2" barrels... walnut grips, stag grips... oh well! All I have is remorse now, lol! Back when I had them, they were the only cap n' ball revolvers legal for handgun deer hunting here in IL. Between the Ruger Old Army's and the T/C Scout 54 cal pistol, I really enjoyed my time in the woods with them. Looked at the 45 Colt cylinders for them, but since I had a Blackhawk in 45 Colt, it never went any farther than that. Enjoy them, they really are very nice revolvers.
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I bought one a couple years ago, added the Belt Mountain base pin. Has yet to see a percussion load, but has been shot a fair amount, if you get my drift…
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Has anyone tried the Mag-Spark 209 conversion nipples for the Ruger Old Army?
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Didn’t know they made them.
A higher front sight is kinda mandatory for the .45 conversion. Midway sells it for about $5. That thing is kinda lively with even regular .45 loads, about all I want in my old age. I have some 260gr GC HPs I plan to try, maybe for deer. The instructions specify lead only, but Brian Pearce, a pretty cautious guy, has used XTPs in his units. I suspect the instructions are kinda generic, covering all the conversion units. The Ruger should be plenty strong for standard pressure loads of all sorts. I should be able to get 900-1000fps with a couple of powders.
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Has anyone tried the Mag-Spark 209 conversion nipples for the Ruger Old Army? Didn’t know they made them. Here's the link - https://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/mag-spark.html
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Thanks but mine is pretty much a .45 now. Gotta wonder though if BH 209 will burn well with the bullets suitable for the OA. PRBs and light lead conicals definitely don’t work in rifles.
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