Now we're getting somewhere. Your pop got an airframe layin aroun that needs some special attention?
Unfortunately, no. He was building an RV-6 when he passed away years ago. Being an airline mechanic (A&P with his Radio License, Spartan School of Aviation), he restored a couple of Piper Tri-Pacers in a suburban two-car garage back in the late 1960's, they turned out beautiful. One was white with tan/black stripes, the other was white with red/black stripes.
One night in ‘77 or ‘78 we had a flight student take his girlfriend out to one of the T-2s on the flight line. He opened the canopy and they got in. After a bit, doing what two young “twenty something’s” would be doing at midnight, one of the plane captains saw them, went out to the aircraft, banged on the side of the jet and told them they needed to get out.
Well the student yells out, “just a minute” 😁. The plane captain yelled at them again and got the same response. The aggravated plane captain went into the line shack and called security.
The Security guys got there and they pair were still going at it but got rudely interrupted. They arrested them both and within a couple of days, that student was gone, not to be seen again. 😳
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Yea, yea, yea, fixed wings are gay !! Are you old enough ??
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I started flying basic aircraft. Aeronca 11AC and 7AC. Luscombe A Cessna 140's etc. Made a good living flying and working on larger aircraft, never lost my love for basic aircraft. The Beech Musketeer is a good buy, If you know an IA with a sense of humor. I used to be one of those guys. Keeps the poor boy flying and I learned a lot about people and airplanes. Those days are gone.
I've found a W10 Tailwind with the wings closed and all welding done for the fuselage/tailfeathers (frame). The kit is supposedly complete. Lycoming O-320-E2D "box of parts". All machine work done, cylinders overhauled, mags overhauled, all yellow tags & 8130's. All assembly required.
The current owner won't tell me what his bottom dollar is. His pop's project that went away when he passed. I think I hurt his feelings when I told him it was for sure worth scrap metal price.
A person who's happy will make others happy. Anne Frank
A friend in Albuquerque had a Tailwind hangard at Los Lunas Airpark. It was pretty cramped. I never saw it land but Hap said it was easy to land with a less than 10mph crosswind. 150 mph cruise but high noise. Lots of small pieces for that engine. An inventory before purchase would be nice. No matter how cheap you get into it there are a lot of dollars ahead before the first flight and a Tailwind is almost unknown today.
Indeed. They are fast, smooth, inexpensive and durable. A few known issues - relatively high stall speed, long landing roll and somewhat tight interior. Pretty sure I can work everything out but the cramped part with modern magic. You can still buy the kits and kit components new too.
A person who's happy will make others happy. Anne Frank
I tried to buy a musketeer years ago. Got to know the model. That is a heavy low-powered version. If it has the continental engine, avoid it like the plague.
They are hell for stout. Have a tendency to be dropped in on approach so you want to watch the top of wing above where landing gear attaches for dimples from hard landings.
Well, I'm getting old, I'm definitely poor, and I'm an aviator. I still don't have any idea what the OP is asking.
Here's the burning question- - - -Are you a Phu Ken AV8'er?
ORIGIN OF THE WORD "AVIATOR" This explains it all. Aviators come from a long line of a secret society, formed around one thousand years ago. They are warriors, and here is the proof! Ground pounders can read it and weep!
A little known fact is the origin of the word, "Aviator." In the immortal words of Johnny Carson: "I did not know that."
Phu Khen (pronounced Foo Ken) 1169-? is considered by some to be the most under-recognized military officer in history. Many have never heard of his contributions to modern military warfare. The mission of this secret society is to bring honor to the name of Phu Khen.
A 'Khen' was a subordinate to a 'Khan' (pronounced 'konn') in the military structure of the Mongol hordes. Khan is Turkish for leader. Most know of the great Genghis Khan, but little has been wri tten of his chain of command.
Khen is also of Turkish origin. Although there is not a word in English that adequately conveys the meaning. Roughly translated, it means, "One who will do the impossible, while appearing unprepared and complaining constantly."
Phu Khen was one of ten Khens that headed the divisions, or groups of hordes, as they were known, of the Mongol Army serving under Genghis Khan. His abilities came to light during the Mongols' raids on the Turkistan city of Bohicaroo. Bohicans were fierce warriors and the city was well fortified. The entire city was protected by huge walls and the hordes were at a standoff with the Bohicans. Bohicaroo was well-stocked and it would be difficult to wait them out. Genghis Khan assembled his Khens and ordered each of them to develop a plan for penetrating the defenses of Bohicaroo.
Operation Achieve Victory (AV) was born. All 10 divisions of Khens submitted their plan. Afte r reviewing AV plans 1 thru 7 and finding them all unworkable or ridiculous, Genghis Khan was understandably upset.
It was with much perspiration that Phu Khen submitted his idea, which came to be known as AV 8. Upon seeing AV 8, Genghis was convinced this was the perfect plan and gave his immediate approval. The plan was beautifully simple. Phu Khen would arm his hordes to the teeth, load them into catapults, and hurl them over the wall. The losses were expected to be high, but hey, hordes were cheap! Those that survived the flight would engage the enemy in combat. Those that did not? Well, surely their flailing bodies would cause some damage.
The plan worked and the Bohicans were defeated. From that day on, whenever the Mongol Army encountered an insurmountable enemy, Genghis Khan would give the order, "Send some of Phu Khen's AV 8-ers."
This is believed, though not by anyone outside our secret society, to be the true origin o f the word Aviator (AV 8-er).
Phu Khen's AV 8-ers were understandably an unruly mob, not likely to be socially acceptable. Many were heavy drinkers and insomniacs. But when nothing else would do, you could always count on an AV 8-er. A Phu Khen Aviator. Denied, perhaps rightfully so, his place in history, Phu Khen has been, nonetheless, immortalized in prose.
As the great poet Norman Lear never once said: "There once was a man named Phu Khen, Whose breakfast was whiskey and gin. When e'er he'd fly, he'd give a mighty war cry: Bend over, here it comes again."
Consider it an honor to be a Phu Khen Aviator. Wear the mantle proudly, but speak of it cautiously. It is not always popular to be one of us.
You hear mystical references, often hushed whispers, to 'those Phu Khen Aviators.' Do not let these things bother you. As with any secret society, we go largely misunderstood, prohibited by our apathy from explaining ou rselves.
You are expected to always live down to the reputation of the Phu Khen Aviator... a reputation cultivated for centuries, undaunted by scorn or ridicule, unhindered by progress. So drink up, be crude, sleep late, urinate in public, and get the job done.
When others are offended, you can revel in the knowledge that YOU are a PHU KHEN AVIATOR!
The 150hp Model was under powered but flew well enough. The 180hp model felt better. The aircraft is heavy and feels comfortable. Parts are expensive. Most started life in the Beech Aero Clubs and had good care. In the early '80' s when we began to see them third and fourth owner they were rough and expensive to Annual.. the fuel injection on the 180's was beginning to be a problem by then. The plain lifter Lycoming is a good engine.
The R Models began to give trouble with main gear actuators and the evenrude power packs. I would not recommend an R Model or the early Piper Arrows for the same reason.
Homebuilts are a love affair. If it is what you want and you enjoy tinkering they are a lot of fun. If you want to count on them for economical transportation one of the RV's will save you Money, Time and Frustration.
