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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
You do. Look under Membership. Your association will discuss support of declared delegates.

4.2.4 vote for, and stand for election as, a delegate or alternate delegate at any meeting called by an electoral district association in which that person resides or serves as a board member, for the selection of delegates or alternate delegates to any national convention of the Party;


https://cpcassets.conservative.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/03155337/KXBCNkWf-X3IDtR.pdf

See also National Conventions 7.5



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Steve is still celebrating the fact that innocent Canadians are still sitting in prison rotting thanks to his hero Justin Blackface. Steve you supported all of these illegal arrested of Canadians and now you pretend that you didn't? What a fake POS

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Yukon254, we had much the same experience here during the last election. Pierre Lemieux, our previous Conservative candidate who served in the Harper government was denied the right to run by O’Toole. This was done at the last minute. O’Toole then nominated a Quebec resident to run as the Conservative candidate for Prescott Russell in eastern Ontario. This did not go over well with many Conservative voters, Lemieux was a well liked and respected MP, a part of our community and bringing in an outsider to run cost O’Toole. I am hoping that the next leader has better political judgement.

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O’Toole saw the writing on the wall a while back. Replacing him had been talked about well before he was removed.


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I did vote for O'toole in the last leadership race and that was a mistake. He was nowhere near the leader that I thought he would be. He did mediocre in the debates and was not clear on many issues when facing the media which any Conservative leader should have been with a hostile crowd.

I think the Conservatives have learned a hard lesson with their lackluster performance in the last election and the popular rise of the PPC (even if they didn't win seats). The base supporter that votes Conservative want a clear alternative to the Liberals and NDP.

They have views and aims that they want their political party to reflect. Simply trying to be a lightweight version of the Liberals will not cut it.

PP to me promises to be that clear cut alternative even more so than LL. The fact that he has a tremendous amount of political experience as well as being fluently bilingual is a real bonus.

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I agree with much of the discussion here, but want to make an important point.

We, like it or not, are in an age of identity politics. If we don’t learn to play the game, we’re going to be left standing alone at home plate again.

For all his positives, PP is another white guy from Quebec. That alienates much of the west and a lot of Ontario.

LL has the brains, the looks and, I dare say, the colour to make low-information voters (LIV) sit up and notice. People who would normally not even bother to listen to a Conservative (cuz they’re all “raaacists!”). People who vote for Castreau because he’s got nice hair and he cries once in a while, so that must mean he cares.

This is what we’re up against. We need to shake up the status quo and take back our reputations as sober, conscientious people who want good for everyone, not just the latest “marginalized” group. We have a big tent, but nobody knows where the entrance is because they keep getting waylaid with lousy information from the MSM.

Someone like LL doesn’t fit the mold, so the media won’t know how to attack her. Just like the trucker’s protest, their approach was so new and innovative, they bamboozled the gov and police and forced them to go nuclear. People have seen what Castreau is capable of. Now we need someone who can capitalize on it.

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Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
I agree with much of the discussion here, but want to make an important point.

We, like it or not, are in an age of identity politics. If we don’t learn to play the game, we’re going to be left standing alone at home plate again.

For all his positives, PP is another white guy from Quebec. That alienates much of the west and a lot of Ontario.

LL has the brains, the looks and, I dare say, the colour to make low-information voters (LIV) sit up and notice. People who would normally not even bother to listen to a Conservative (cuz they’re all “raaacists!”). People who vote for Castreau because he’s got nice hair and he cries once in a while, so that must mean he cares.

This is what we’re up against. We need to shake up the status quo and take back our reputations as sober, conscientious people who want good for everyone, not just the latest “marginalized” group. We have a big tent, but nobody knows where the entrance is because they keep getting waylaid with lousy information from the MSM.

Someone like LL doesn’t fit the mold, so the media won’t know how to attack her. Just like the trucker’s protest, their approach was so new and innovative, they bamboozled the gov and police and forced them to go nuclear. People have seen what Castreau is capable of. Now we need someone who can capitalize on it.


I get the feeling that Brown and Charest won’t do well in the party voting. Brown isn’t well known outside of Ontario and had that sexual misconduct thing that forced him to resign as provincial Conservative leader.

Charest is an old school guy who has been a Liberal and a Conservative. Personally, I do not believe he would help hunters and gun owners. He likes to go with the flow.

Wannabebwana makes a valid point about voter perceptions. I cannot see huge support coming from Conservatives for Brown or Charest at the convention.

I can see Lewis getting more traction because she is black and female. I would support her before Charest - the old, fat white guy. laugh


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Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
I agree with much of the discussion here, but want to make an important point.

For all his positives, PP is another white guy from Quebec. That alienates much of the west and a lot of Ontario.



FYI

PP was born in Calgary and graduated from the University of Calgary. He is 42 years old.

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Steve the past 2 years you praised black face racist Trudeau's policies of arresting the unvaccinated , now you suddenly are conservative?

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
I agree with much of the discussion here, but want to make an important point.

We, like it or not, are in an age of identity politics. If we don’t learn to play the game, we’re going to be left standing alone at home plate again.

For all his positives, PP is another white guy from Quebec. That alienates much of the west and a lot of Ontario.

LL has the brains, the looks and, I dare say, the colour to make low-information voters (LIV) sit up and notice. People who would normally not even bother to listen to a Conservative (cuz they’re all “raaacists!”). People who vote for Castreau because he’s got nice hair and he cries once in a while, so that must mean he cares.

This is what we’re up against. We need to shake up the status quo and take back our reputations as sober, conscientious people who want good for everyone, not just the latest “marginalized” group. We have a big tent, but nobody knows where the entrance is because they keep getting waylaid with lousy information from the MSM.

Someone like LL doesn’t fit the mold, so the media won’t know how to attack her. Just like the trucker’s protest, their approach was so new and innovative, they bamboozled the gov and police and forced them to go nuclear. People have seen what Castreau is capable of. Now we need someone who can capitalize on it.


I get the feeling that Brown and Charest won’t do well in the party voting. Brown isn’t well known outside of Ontario and had that sexual misconduct thing that forced him to resign as provincial Conservative leader.

Charest is an old school guy who has been a Liberal and a Conservative. Personally, I do not believe he would help hunters and gun owners. He likes to go with the flow.

Wannabebwana makes a valid point about voter perceptions. I cannot see huge support coming from Conservatives for Brown or Charest at the convention.

I can see Lewis getting more traction because she is black and female. I would support her before Charest - the old, fat white guy. laugh

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I did vote for O'toole in the last leadership race and that was a mistake. He was nowhere near the leader that I thought he would be. He did mediocre in the debates and was not clear on many issues when facing the media which any Conservative leader should have been with a hostile crowd.

I think the Conservatives have learned a hard lesson with their lackluster performance in the last election and the popular rise of the PPC (even if they didn't win seats). The base supporter that votes Conservative want a clear alternative to the Liberals and NDP.

They have views and aims that they want their political party to reflect. Simply trying to be a lightweight version of the Liberals will not cut it.

PP to me promises to be that clear cut alternative even more so than LL. The fact that he has a tremendous amount of political experience as well as being fluently bilingual is a real bonus.



I wouldn't beat yourself up about that. At the time, we talked about who to support too. Our association wanted Mackay.

This past election, we knew Trudeau and the Liberals had made a few mistakes and could be called on it. For some reason, whoever was advising O'Toole didn't go after them or help with the debates. The campaign stalled almost from the start. He came across as indecisive.

Of course, Bernier and the PPC siphoned off some votes too. It was a badly run election for us.


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Originally Posted by PSE
Pierre Pollievre will have my vote for the leadership race. The Liberals seem quite fearful of him as judged by the uptick of personal attacks on him.

The other reason is that they know he can handle himself very well in a debate in both official languages. He has a quick wit and excellent command of the facts. He was most impressive as Finance Critic especially when it comes to scandals such as the WE scandal.

He appears to champion the legitimate gun owner in Canada and is knowledgeable about the issue - something I'm not sure LL is, even if she says all the right things.

I remember how Erin O'toole got ambushed in Vancouver at the last election concerning this and came away weak, looking like a deer in the headlights. This will not happen to PP.

LL is a fine person and a true blue Conservative but her lack of French language skills will hurt her and the party in the next election debates. Like it or not mastery of the French language is essential to become leader of this country.



Having lived in the Montreal area for nearly two decades, including the FLQ crisis, the above is an excellent commentary of the electoral picture in Quebec.

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Just what we need in the west....more of what Ontario and Quebec want, great.

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For anyone who doesn’t know, this will give everyone a summary of who Poilievre is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Poilievre


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You'll get a "leader" who is every bit as willing to lock down the country as Mr. Castro, regardless of party, and regardless of what is said now. Just give them a reason. Steve's revered "democratic process" will have you ruined by a "majority" of folks who want to be ruled and hand-held from cradle to grave, regardless of whether that majority truly exists, or is a product of methods of vote counting. And Steve will say "The People have spoken" and help them ruin you.

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I will give this political entity one more chance, then I will jump ship to the party willing to separate from the east, just like we have been for 150 years.
Nothing against the good people of Ontario east, but the ones I see here coming from there are......anti gun, anti hunting, anti freedom, give the land back morons. They fit in well with the anti everything here in BC.
They come here to retire, get into some form of politics whether it is municipal or provincial etc, and it is full on woke and gay shyte before you know it.

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We need a leader than can win, not just against Trudeau, but also against Singh. Battle will be on two fronts -- Liberal and Liberal Socialism. And we have to have a clear policy and battle front set before the election gets set. A plan that we can stand on in strength - unwavering.


The Bible says in the book of James, "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." Fix the direction the battle will take!


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Originally Posted by PSE
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
I agree with much of the discussion here, but want to make an important point.

For all his positives, PP is another white guy from Quebec. That alienates much of the west and a lot of Ontario.



FYI

PP was born in Calgary and graduated from the University of Calgary. He is 42 years old.



Her's some brave Canadian conservatives a few moths ago celebrating Trudeau's facist crackdowns. PSE didn't you just say the virus could not mutate and the vax was one hundred per effective ? Good call lol


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
For anyone who doesn’t know, this will give everyone a summary of who Poilievre is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Poilievre



Children in grade school here in the US are not allowed to use the unreliable fake news wiki as a source. Did you even finish grade school in Canada? I heard Canadian Govt union members ( who didnt show up to work for the past two years while nurses, teachers, truckers, doctors soldiers were fired and arrested for not getting the vax) ) weren't too bright and yes all of the Canadian unions backed arresting Canadians who did not get the vax which now is not working.

It really is too funny to see all of the fake conservatives suddenly pretend they care about rights. Your own past words on here expose your ignorance, fear and cowardice

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Originally Posted by the_shootist
We need a leader than can win, not just against Trudeau, but also against Singh. Battle will be on two fronts -- Liberal and Liberal Socialism. And we have to have a clear policy and battle front set before the election gets set. A plan that we can stand on in strength - unwavering.


The Bible says in the book of James, "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." Fix the direction the battle will take!


We keep trying, Keith. My own belief is that Poilievre is more capable than Brown or Charest. I am not really sure about Lewis.

https://www.conservative.ca/news/


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Originally Posted by the_shootist
We need a leader than can win, not just against Trudeau, but also against Singh. Battle will be on two fronts -- Liberal and Liberal Socialism. And we have to have a clear policy and battle front set before the election gets set. A plan that we can stand on in strength - unwavering.


The Bible says in the book of James, "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." Fix the direction the battle will take!


We keep trying, Keith. My own belief is that Poilievre is more capable than Brown or Charest. I am not really sure about Lewis.

https://www.conservative.ca/news/





Keith from your previous posts I know you are a sincere Christian who believes in the lord and despises evil corrupt anti Christian governments.


What goes through your mind when amoral scoundrels like Steve uses the Bible to hide his true character ? To me that is the definition of pure evil and reminds me that Satan was known throughout the history to utilize the same techniques manipulate good honest faithful
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