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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/pL4ZB7st/73-CD9456-F240-4580-9-F9-C-E3-E8-D8-B657-D5.jpg) I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw.
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P
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Well, I'm certainly not trying to be the pressure police.
My experience is that 2,900 fps is what a guy can expect from a .223 and 75's
A fast .223AI fire form load with 75's is running 2,950-80.
.223AI full house loads at 3,090 fps
Good luck.
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P Do what you wanna do, but if you lose an eye or worse, that is on you.. You always want to load at top velocity (maybe even over pressure) and then putz around with seating depth. That may not work this time. Just sayin.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Chit AMU is notorious for loading hot when I say hot, brass is one and done.. for those of you living under a rock AMU stands for Army Markmanship Unit.. As the story was told to me AMU showed up to camp perry and shot across the course the long line load was 80gr smk loaded in lapua brass. Well amu was just leaving it lay guys started picking it up as the rest of the story goes the brass wouldn’t even hold a primer.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I have a new-to-me stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .223. It shot my previous 75 gr ELDM load okay, but not how I know Tikkas can shoot. I figure that if I have to do it over I’m gonna do it differently. I did some research and decided to try TAC. I’m running it kinda hot so I’m not gonna post my load, but chrono testing gets me 3043, ES 16, SD 6, but only 7 shots. Brass looks fine, no bolt lift issues. I’m loading pretty long with Mountain Tactical magazines. I put together a seating depth test starting at just kissing the lands (2.477”) and ending at 2.373,” which isn’t far from the ogive. Weather permitting I’ll be able to get an afternoon in maybe Wednesday. I’m looking for Tikka accuracy. 3043 with a .235 G7 ain’t bad. P Yeah, 3,043 fps with a 75 ELD out of a .223 is crazy fast. 2,900 or so is where I'd be shutting things down fwiw. Max charge of Varget gets me 2977 so I’m not that far off. Why hand load if not to push the limits of performance? Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand. Meanin’ no disrespect to red headed whores, of course. P Find some 80gr eld m those have a Brian Litz tested bc of .505. I verified that bc to be spot on out to 600 and 1000yds. If you can get 2800-2900 with that 80gr bullet you will outshoot alot of other cartridges out to a 1000yds. My daughter used that bullet in her Valkyrie at a 1000yd match. They call it the red rocket load.
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Eyepatches look cool.
Moshe Dayan was a badass.
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Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand.
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...at 200 fps over max she has herpes.
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I looked up some Tac data and found that the old manual has some 5.56 load data rated to 62,350 psi and shows a compressed load of 25.8 gr Tac at 2,994 fps. with a Hornady 75 hpbt in a 24" bbl.
Maybe Pharm got a Tikka with a fast bbl?
LOL
Sorry Pharm, didn't mean to get the pressure police all riled up. My bad.
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I looked up some Tac data and found that the old manual has some 5.56 load data rated to 62,350 psi and shows a compressed load of 25.8 gr Tac at 2,994 fps. with a Hornady 75 hpbt in a 24" bbl.
Maybe Pharm got a Tikka with a fast bbl?
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Sorry Pharm, didn't mean to get the pressure police all riled up. My bad.
I started at 25.8 and got a high ES so I went up .1. Still high. Went up another tenth, no pressure signs and 16 ES. 3043-2994 = 49. And I’m loading a lot longer than 2.260” so I’m not worried. Don’t anyone else try this.
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I shoot a bit of Hornady 75 hollow points.. I'll have to go look at my exact data but it's 8208 ...
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Well he is definitely in the 5.56/223 Wylde pressure territory.. that kissing the lands load I be interested on how it does..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Those 75's do look mean loaded out though.
79, I need to look for some 80's. Those sound like zingers as well.
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Hand loading conservatively is like asking a red headed whore to hold your hand.
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...at 200 fps over max she has herpes. That’s what condoms and Valtrex are for.
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Those 75's do look mean loaded out though.
79, I need to look for some 80's. Those sound like zingers as well. I thought about finding a Remington 700 in a 223 sending it of get a1-7 twist heavy barrel screwed have chamber cut to shoot those 80’s need to be seated around 2.500-2.550. Be a dandy f class rifle. A SA Winchester in a 223 be a better build I think.
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Those 75's do look mean loaded out though.
79, I need to look for some 80's. Those sound like zingers as well. I thought about finding a Remington 700 in a 223 sending it of get a1-7 twist heavy barrel screwed have chamber cut to shoot those 80’s need to be seated around 2.500-2.550. Be a dandy f class rifle. A SA Winchester in a 223 be a better build I think. Man, I’d love a 1-7 223 Model 70 myself.
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Those 75's do look mean loaded out though.
79, I need to look for some 80's. Those sound like zingers as well. I thought about finding a Remington 700 in a 223 sending it of get a1-7 twist heavy barrel screwed have chamber cut to shoot those 80’s need to be seated around 2.500-2.550. Be a dandy f class rifle. A SA Winchester in a 223 be a better build I think. Man, I’d love a 1-7 223 Model 70 myself. Had one, on a Ruger 77 Mk 2 Action.... H 335 with a 25 grain load with a 55 SP, messed that action up, TWICE... and destroyed two stocks... pulled the barrel, Rechambered it for 22.250 and put on another Ruger Mk 2... it really shines all the more, with a 22.250 chambering.. especially with a longer magazine... as the action was originally a 243.... 68, 69, 73, 75, 77 and 80 grain bullets work very well and very accurately.. will reach way out there... gotta find those couple of boxes of 88 grain ELD-Ms I picked up and try those out..... bet I have good things waiting for me with those....
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