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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. Yeah, maybe. But conditions are right for the mother of all false flags.
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It's a mafia turf war at best. Biden voters are the only ones who give a chit. Someone might want to let them know the Ukraine used to be in the USSR.
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. Endless conflict. Sounds rational.
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There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear.
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Hey Rod... welcome to the fire. April 2022. You speak with great confidence and authority. Thanks for your honesty...
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. My fight with them ended when their empire collapsed. The Oath is still valid, but the enemy has shifted positions. The communists who are threats now are strictly domestic and have set up shop in DC and state legislatures, local govts and media.
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As long as we're getting plenty of dead Russians in exchange The best Russians are dead Russians. Liking the Koolaid? What flavor? You got your side and I got mine. And we ain't on the same team 😉 So you two scumbags are in favor of living in a world envisioned by Klaus Schwab? You're right. We ain't on the same side. I take it that's you playing with Klaus Schwab's cock in your avatar
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Most if not all wars make somebody rich.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Is it cheaper for us to build more anti-tank missiles, or for the Russians to build more tanks? A/S: What do we have to gain by involving ourselves? Old friend, Don't let your hatred for the current administration blind yourself to the fact that Putin is evil to the core. This is not a question of good and evil, but one of bad and worse. If you won't believe a former Intel Analyst who spend his time a stone's throw from Soviet Airspace, perhaps you you'll listen to a gentleman who's spent more than his fair share of time in harms way in a variety of theaters: That article is some serious propaganda nonsense.
"But President Joe Biden never planned for a war like this".
GMAFB Dementia Joe is incapable of planning what socks to wear each day and literally has someone who makes those choices for him. Go back and read these threads carefully. See who's rooting for the Russian and what's being said by our actual Veteran's who've faced off against the Russian either directly in the Cold war, or in the various proxy war's we've fought with them since WWII. None of us are supporting Russia. I'd extend MacKay's assessment to the "sources" quoted by Tyronne as well. I absolutely do not find them credible. If this was 1939 Gone Hunting, Tyrone et. all would be supporting German's invasion of Poland because the Germans said Poland started it. As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood. I understand and I know we can't go back to 1916, but it seems that every foreign conflict we have ever involved ourselves in has come up with disastrous results for the whole world. And for it we have $30 trillion of debt and a world ready to go to war again. For the life of me I can't figure out how WW1 and WW2 could have had a worse result with half the population of the world becoming our communist enemies.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. My fight with them ended when their empire collapsed. The Oath is still valid, but the enemy has shifted positions. The communists who are threats now are strictly domestic and have set up shop in DC and state legislatures, local govts and media. Don't you get it? The communist you are fighting at home are the same communist fighting the Ukrainians. The founders of BLM were schooled in Moscow. Post-Modernism is just rebranded Marxism. All of the class based, now identify based politics you are fighting against is just rebranding from Marx, where the Bourgeois and Proletarians where replaced with divisions of identity politics. It's a personal conspiracy theory of mine, but I still think Soro's works for the Russians, laundering their money to influence out politics in way that destroy us from within. Sure the Ukrainians are not saints, but I'm happy to see the Russians bogged down in another proxy wars that's dropped their place in the world order to it's lowest point since 1917.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I still think the Ukrainians are the Marxists and the Russians are just Nationalists. https://banned.video/watch?id=625f467158028017cbd0369e
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For the guys wanting to cling to fighting the roots of communist here in America that came from Moscow you need to refocus a little further back and go after the Germans. Marxism and the organizers of the Bolsheviks are a bunch of Germans of the “every single time” persuasion. The Russians were victims and threw them off back in ‘89. If you’re hating the Russians today you are hating Russian nationalists who are fighting Nazis and global imperialist (USA/NATO) who were killing their fellow ethnic Russians and setting up a base of operations on the Russian border.
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Conspiracy theorists are the ones who see it all coming…
You are the carbon they want to eliminate !
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Is it cheaper for us to build more anti-tank missiles, or for the Russians to build more tanks? A/S: What do we have to gain by involving ourselves? Old friend, Don't let your hatred for the current administration blind yourself to the fact that Putin is evil to the core. This is not a question of good and evil, but one of bad and worse. If you won't believe a former Intel Analyst who spend his time a stone's throw from Soviet Airspace, perhaps you you'll listen to a gentleman who's spent more than his fair share of time in harms way in a variety of theaters: That article is some serious propaganda nonsense.
"But President Joe Biden never planned for a war like this".
GMAFB Dementia Joe is incapable of planning what socks to wear each day and literally has someone who makes those choices for him. Go back and read these threads carefully. See who's rooting for the Russian and what's being said by our actual Veteran's who've faced off against the Russian either directly in the Cold war, or in the various proxy war's we've fought with them since WWII. None of us are supporting Russia. I'd extend MacKay's assessment to the "sources" quoted by Tyronne as well. I absolutely do not find them credible. If this was 1939 Gone Hunting, Tyrone et. all would be supporting German's invasion of Poland because the Germans said Poland started it. As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood. I understand and I know we can't go back to 1916, but it seems that every foreign conflict we have ever involved ourselves in has come up with disastrous results for the whole world. And for it we have $30 trillion of debt and a world ready to go to war again. For the life of me I can't figure out how WW1 and WW2 could have had a worse result with half the population of the world becoming our communist enemies. In WW2 the Russians were never our friends. We just had a common enemy. After words Russia occupied 14 nations against their will until the day after Christmas, 1991. If you think Putin doesn't want that territory back, you are just wrong. The Russians are not in the Ukraine on some humanitarian mission.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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In WW2 the Russians were never our friends. We just had a common enemy. After words Russia occupied 14 nations against their will until the day after Christmas, 1991. If you think Putin doesn't want that territory back, you are just wrong. The Russians are not in the Ukraine on some humanitarian mission. To say that they are there on a humanitarian mission would be simplistic and unrealistic. To deny that there are humanitarian aspects is disingenuous. No country is going to engage in a "humanitarian" war without some expectation of a way to pay for it. That would be stupid. https://www.sott.net/article/466340...What-Has-Been-And-is-Going-on-in-Ukrainehttps://www.stalkerzone.org/elena-b...the-west-but-now-it-represents-a-danger/
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Republicans as well as democrats have bought into the farce. Ukraine is a deeply corrupt country that has brought on its own demise. Leaving our nation defenseless is not a winning concept. Or is it? There's never been a more corrupt and more dishonest Country than Russia Yes there has, youre living in it
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. My fight with them ended when their empire collapsed. The Oath is still valid, but the enemy has shifted positions. The communists who are threats now are strictly domestic and have set up shop in DC and state legislatures, local govts and media. Nailed it!
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As for what do we get out of it? We get a weakened adversary without spilling American blood.
Or maybe a nuclear war. Only time will tell. There will be no nuclear war. We've been fighting the Russian's for 75 years and could fight them for another 75 and it wouldn't go nuclear. My fight with them ended when their empire collapsed. The Oath is still valid, but the enemy has shifted positions. The communists who are threats now are strictly domestic and have set up shop in DC and state legislatures, local govts and media. Don't you get it? The communist you are fighting at home are the same communist fighting the Ukrainians. The founders of BLM were schooled in Moscow. Post-Modernism is just rebranded Marxism. All of the class based, now identify based politics you are fighting against is just rebranding from Marx, where the Bourgeois and Proletarians where replaced with divisions of identity politics. It's a personal conspiracy theory of mine, but I still think Soro's works for the Russians, laundering their money to influence out politics in way that destroy us from within. Sure the Ukrainians are not saints, but I'm happy to see the Russians bogged down in another proxy wars that's dropped their place in the world order to it's lowest point since 1917. So Soros came out and backed Ukraine, but you think he secretly works for the Russians?
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I have confidence in US military contractors. Put a pile of little green paper in front of them and they will produce the weapons.
Does anyone know if we are selling Ukraine the weapons or giving them the weapons? I'm betting giving!
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