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Was thinking of buying one of these and I have a surplus of 500 grain Hornady round nose bullets. I realize flat nose bullets are the best choice but what do you guys think of using these Hornadys?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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If you have the twist you'll have to seat them deep to function through the lever action, you can roll on an extra crimp groove in the proper spot, if not enough twist use the 350gr Hornady, in either case give both a good pinching with Lee crimp die, adjust your case mouth belling die to proper height, lock down and run the loaded rounds up and 'mash' yourself a nice flat meplat onto the soft lead nose, i do the same thing with 530gr bullets i cast for my '86 50-110 WCF.
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I have shot my 1886 45-90 for several years and never gave any thought to twist. The heaviest bullets I shoot are 450 grainers as I prefer a little higher velocity over a little heavier bullet. I do not shoot cast bullets, just jacketed bullets or solid bullets as the game dictates. I have shot a lot of thin skinned game with Winchester 300 grain Nosler PP bullets.
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If it were me, with the component shortages we’re currently experiencing, I’d likely try to move those bullets on and use the funds to buy more appropriate bullets or a bullet mould.
On your question of whether to buy a 45/90 levergun - well, it’s a very capable cartridge. The twist rate of the Winoku rifles is 1 in 20”, so they will stabilise any sensible weight 458 pill (including 500+ gr). You can use most pills suited to 45/70 use, but Its main advantage over a 45/70 is the additional capacity to drive heavier bullets, especially if you like using cast bullets with lots of lube grooves. However, the curved steel buttplates that Winchester seems to fit to their 45/90 rifles might temper your enthusiasm for heavy loadings. I much prefer a shotgun style buttstock on a firearm that has heavy recoil.
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Yes, i don't know if the OP was buying an original or newer replica version '86 in 45-90, great setup either way.
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If I buy the rifle it will be the newer replica model. Thanks for the opinions.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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The Miroku/Winchester is a well made rifle and it gets the job done in Africa and America. Shoots 45-70 and 45-90 ammo accurately and effectively. My TD is one that was part of a Davidsons order several years ago.
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