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Those are still great numbers either way.
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75 ELD's are running 3,090 in my 21" 1-7" Bartlein with 27.6 gr of Leverevolution in formed Rem cases. Fire forming loads are running 2,960 which I'd consider a very warm load for a saami .223. Pharmseller has 75's scooting 3,100 with TAC in a 23" .223 Tikka. Might ask him as I've never messed with TAC but it's been available more than Lever so might have to check it out if worse comes to worse and Pharmseller still has a face.  Lots and lots of threads of all the usual suspects arguing about .223AI though. Might do a search. In a Tikka Varm .223AI, I get 2940 fps with FF loads using 25.7 gr LVR and 2910 fps with 25.5 gr TAC. In formed WW cases, I ran about a thousand rounds through the rifle using 27 gr TAC at over 3100 fps, but intermittent primer blanking issues caused me to back down to 26 gr for 3015 fps.
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75 ELD's are running 3,090 in my 21" 1-7" Bartlein with 27.6 gr of Leverevolution in formed Rem cases. Fire forming loads are running 2,960 which I'd consider a very warm load for a saami .223. Pharmseller has 75's scooting 3,100 with TAC in a 23" .223 Tikka. Might ask him as I've never messed with TAC but it's been available more than Lever so might have to check it out if worse comes to worse and Pharmseller still has a face. Lots and lots of threads of all the usual suspects arguing about .223AI though. Might do a search. In a Tikka Varm .223AI, I get 2940 fps with FF loads using 25.7 gr LVR and 2910 fps with 25.5 gr TAC. In formed WW cases, I ran about a thousand rounds through the rifle using 27 gr TAC at over 3100 fps, but intermittent primer blanking issues caused me to back down to 26 gr for 3015 fps. 75 ELD's? Bbl length?
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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75 ELD's are running 3,090 in my 21" 1-7" Bartlein with 27.6 gr of Leverevolution in formed Rem cases. Fire forming loads are running 2,960 which I'd consider a very warm load for a saami .223. Pharmseller has 75's scooting 3,100 with TAC in a 23" .223 Tikka. Might ask him as I've never messed with TAC but it's been available more than Lever so might have to check it out if worse comes to worse and Pharmseller still has a face. Lots and lots of threads of all the usual suspects arguing about .223AI though. Might do a search. In a Tikka Varm .223AI, I get 2940 fps with FF loads using 25.7 gr LVR and 2910 fps with 25.5 gr TAC. In formed WW cases, I ran about a thousand rounds through the rifle using 27 gr TAC at over 3100 fps, but intermittent primer blanking issues caused me to back down to 26 gr for 3015 fps. 75 ELD's? Bbl length? That's with my stash of 75 AM. Barrel length is 23.75".
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I like mine crowding 4000fps too. Hint.(grin)
Quit fhuqking around and see how it do with 75 ELD's. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING.................... Yessir, those 75's will get it done.
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I was going to have Shaen build me a rifle a few years back. Seeing how I don't live that far from him. I talked to him on the phone, I thought everything was good; my wife and I were going to do a road trip and get out of town for a few days. All I needed from him was his address so I could drop off the rifle to be fixed.
Then he just stopped responding to my request. So, my rifle went to Woodland, CA to another gunsmith who I greatly like his work.
I was just sharing some work for the gunsmith.
No harm no foul.
I might try again on my next build.
Take care.
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He probably didn't want anybody to see his messy reloading bench!
I'm always paranoid about meeting up with other Californians too.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Should be screaming. My 223AI smithed by IT&D is pushing the 40's at around 3950 IIRC.... they explode like little bombs when they hit critters.... That's who did my faux Ti 223 ai with an 8 twist pac nor 3 groove maybe 15 years ago. It's got a 21" barrel and still shoots well. I'm still burning up a large stash of 75g amaxes but I have 75, 80, and 88 eldms waiting. I don't think it'll stabilize the 88s but I'll probably give them a try. I used to run 75s at 3100 but it was a hot load and when I switched lots of lapua brass it was too hot. I've found a good load with 8208xbr that runs 3000 and always shoots well. Sometimes I'll run 53g vmaxes at 3400 plus but 90% of the time it's been 75 amaxes. My remage criterion 22 Creedmoor been getting all the field time lately. Bb
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I got a great deal on a VSSF barrel about the time my 17 Remington burned out the barrel so I sent it off to Dave to work his magic. It shoots great with the light bullets, but the VSSF barrel is a 12 twist so it does best with the light bullets. Tried some 55's in it and it shot okay, but the 40's shoot very, very well in it and the few coyotes and chucks I've shot with it were a sight to behold... works great for target work also...
One of these days I'm going to build a fast twist 223 just to see what the fuss is all about. My AR is a fast twist and it shoots pretty well with the 40 grain BT's I have loaded for it, but the next loads are going to be 53s and 55s just to see what it will do. I think I have a pretty good stash of them to use up now...
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I was going to have Shaen build me a rifle a few years back. Seeing how I don't live that far from him. I talked to him on the phone, I thought everything was good; my wife and I were going to do a road trip and get out of town for a few days. All I needed from him was his address so I could drop off the rifle to be fixed.
Then he just stopped responding to my request. So, my rifle went to Woodland, CA to another gunsmith who I greatly like his work.
I was just sharing some work for the gunsmith.
No harm no foul.
I might try again on my next build.
Take care. I don’t remember that but sounds like I dropped the communication ball somewhere.
I’m not an organ donor. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but I’d rather cover my bases in case there is and I need everything. You just never know.
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After Dredging Chrome in the AM,I'll gut a S/S Seven and head it your way,for the recently landed 7" RPM spout you received. 223 SALAMI and an 88 impetus,start to finish. Hint.
It's currently FL bedded and you'll even get to chase contour! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I was going to have Shaen build me a rifle a few years back. Seeing how I don't live that far from him. I talked to him on the phone, I thought everything was good; my wife and I were going to do a road trip and get out of town for a few days. All I needed from him was his address so I could drop off the rifle to be fixed.
Then he just stopped responding to my request. So, my rifle went to Woodland, CA to another gunsmith who I greatly like his work.
I was just sharing some work for the gunsmith.
No harm no foul.
I might try again on my next build.
Take care. I don’t remember that but sounds like I dropped the communication ball somewhere. Damn Californians anyway.... SHEESH!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Hammerdown, was the guy in Woodland Craig Maroviov? If so he’s built a couple for me. Great builder. And if you like big blacktail stop by his shop, he’s got some toads hanging in there.
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