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Looking for opinions. I have a 20 Ram Classic 1500 crew 4x4. Kinda my retirement and traveling truck. I also have a 2004 Dakota crew. 180,000 miles. Owned it 8 years and been out west 8 or 9 times. Never abused but definitely been used. Really showing the hard use. Also gas mileage is 15 mph at best.

Really like a smaller truck for getting around tight trails and like the idea of a "beater" vehicle that's still capable of long trips and getting off road if necessary. Some trips out west don't have to be a truck. So, is there a smaller, body on frame, real 4 wheel drive suv worth a damn as a hunting or trapping vehicle that would carry gear for two guys.

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If not a Tacoma then an older 4runner would be my pic, built tuff and just keep going.....and going.

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Tacoma of some sort


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I also have a 2004 Dakota crew.
My wife had one of those, very close to that year. The heater and a/c quit blowing air. I found a mouse nest inside the blower housing. After some poking around, I had to take it to a shop to get the nest removed. It cost me $700 in labor because they had to dismantle everything under the dash.


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We took a Dakota Crew to Canada on a fishing trip and not only was is one cramped ride, but the thing used gas like it had a hole in the tank. We'd have been money ahead if we had taken my full size F150. Given that experience, I sure wouldn't have coddled a Dakota for 180,000 miles. Consumer Reports never gives the 4Runner glowing reports, but it is about the only smaller SUV with a full frame instead of uni-body construction.


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If you can find a NICE one, Jeep YJ.


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I picked up a 1998 Isuzu Trooper manual 4-5 months ago on a trade.

It is an absolute monster.

Best 4x4 I have ever owned (and I have owned a bunch... including Land Cruisers.).

$3k or $3,400 I forget.

Manual is always superior for rough work IMHO.


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Tacoma of some sort




pre Tacoma

late 80's early 90's 4 banger & manual transmission/short bed


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Originally Posted by tikkanut


late 80's early 90's 4 banger & manual transmission/short bed


That would be my vote, or a 4runner of the same era. Just avoid the 3.0 v6. The (later) 3.4 is a good one too, not a powerhouse, but a solid motor.

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I picked up a 1998 Isuzu Trooper manual 4-5 months ago on a trade.

It is an absolute monster.

Best 4x4 I have ever owned (and I have owned a bunch... including Land Cruisers.).

$3k or $3,400 I forget.

Manual is always superior for rough work IMHO.


Good score, Cash. I keep an eye out for something like that for a beater but ain't nothing priced like a beater anymore.


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I picked up a 1998 Isuzu Trooper manual 4-5 months ago on a trade.

It is an absolute monster.

Best 4x4 I have ever owned (and I have owned a bunch... including Land Cruisers.).

$3k or $3,400 I forget.

Manual is always superior for rough work IMHO.


Good score, Cash. I keep an eye out for something like that for a beater but ain't nothing priced like a beater anymore.


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If you can find a NICE one, Jeep YJ.


That or a 4 runner would be my pick

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My 87 Toyota shortbed 4 x4 has been a great truck since I purchased it about 15 years ago.
22R four cylinder and a five speed.
Really tough trucks that are easy to work on.

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Ranger a six foot man can fit in one.......

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General FYI if anyone is interested... just popped up in Hampton VA on Fakebook MP

2001 Trooper manual @ $3k final price...

Looks clean and well kept. 190k

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Drop me a PM if you need the link.

I will probably buy as a spare... if still around next week.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by CashisKing
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Originally Posted by CashisKing
I picked up a 1998 Isuzu Trooper manual 4-5 months ago on a trade.

It is an absolute monster.

Best 4x4 I have ever owned (and I have owned a bunch... including Land Cruisers.).

$3k or $3,400 I forget.

Manual is always superior for rough work IMHO.


Good score, Cash. I keep an eye out for something like that for a beater but ain't nothing priced like a beater anymore.


[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

She will get an exoskeleton... roof winch etc.

TOUGH RIGS!

Toyota wheels interface... so my 1986 Taco and Izzy can share...

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Disregard the logo on the door... young man that did my tube work got carried away with red paint and a logo. Final finish will be a flat black rubber (3M 5200).




Great truck, but an 86 isn’t a Taco. The Tacoma’s came out in 95.5 as a mid year replacement for the pickups. I’ve had both and absolutely love Toyota’s.


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Originally Posted by LBP


Great truck, but an 86 isn’t a Taco. The Tacoma’s came out in 95.5 as a mid year replacement for the pickups. I’ve had both and absolutely love Toyota’s.


Thanks... Did not know that... just assumed all were Tacos (as a generic frame of reference). The Campfire grows knowledge and that is great stuff.


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The trooper that cash suggested is a great option, only issues is the auto trans isn’t the strongest. Other than that they’re pretty solid. Another good option is the mitsubishi montero.

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Originally Posted by scottf270
Looking for opinions. I have a 20 Ram Classic 1500 crew 4x4. Kinda my retirement and traveling truck. I also have a 2004 Dakota crew. 180,000 miles. Owned it 8 years and been out west 8 or 9 times. Never abused but definitely been used. Really showing the hard use. Also gas mileage is 15 mph at best.

Really like a smaller truck for getting around tight trails and like the idea of a "beater" vehicle that's still capable of long trips and getting off road if necessary. Some trips out west don't have to be a truck. So, is there a smaller, body on frame, real 4 wheel drive suv worth a damn as a hunting or trapping vehicle that would carry gear for two guys.


Just use what you got.

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Originally Posted by Wyatt_G
The trooper that cash suggested is a great option, only issues is the auto trans isn’t the strongest. Other than that they’re pretty solid. Another good option is the mitsubishi montero.


We bought a beater Honda CR-V for our mountain place (2005 @ $2,700)... The auto will NOT hold up... lesson learned... sell the CR-V and buy another Trooper (manual)... I am doing just that now.

We have a fair bit of land... Extremely harsh... Never hurts to have two... spare rig or parts down the road kinda thing. Especially if they are cheap enough.

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