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Baylor...
AKA: Dogzilla


Mixed breed greyhound/ Lab/ god knows what else.

House pet extrodinaire.
Daughters rescue dog
Chase's and Trees squirrels
Points at Birds
Chases em as they lift off the ground
Goes after rabbits along fenceline.
Hates buzzards.
Have no doubt if he was trained as a pup he would have been a good multi tasking hunting dog.



Mutt....
Aka pure breed american cheesehound

my problem with the strictly working dogs like the pointers, drawthars, etc. they make terrible family dogs. They are too ubber high strung on hunting only. If the dog doesn't make a good family dog I don't want them. but I do hunt them a few times a year so I need a hunting dog as well. having a lab is the perfect mix of that. doesn't hurt that my 9 year old lab is also a pointing lab, he holds on birds till you get a shot. a rare trait in a lab.

We have 2 Goldendoodles.

They are the best 2 dogs we have EVER had.

They are smart, obedient, athletic as hell, and great hunters. Neither is hard headed at all - they have very loving and calm personalities. They literally don't shed a single hair.

Finn is the athlete and master hunter on the left. Stella is the motherly supervisor, on the right.

[quote=cumminscowboy]
You are one dump phuc.Standard poodles were bred in Germany as an all around hunting dog.They are exceptional water dogs and can point naturally.Poodle means puddle in German.I will put my Standard poodles against any all around hunting dog .Of course if you breed a poodle with some mutt lab you will probably not get much.Breed a hunting poodle with a hunting lab and you will have some thing.Every ass hole and his brother are buying any poodle and breeding with any lab or golden and you get what you bred.

another neighbor complained they have to have their labradoodle shaved all the time and it costs $60 bucks a shave. a few posters said dumb as a box of rocks YES that would describe every labradoodle I have seen, they are the rage around me.
to those saying how awesome the poodles are as hunting dogs, I have NEVER seen a poodle hunting on any of the pheasant farms I have been to. its brittany spaniels, german shorthairs, labs and a few drathars. oh and my buddy has that pudel pointer which turned out to be a barely acceptable hunting dog after tons and tons of training, but otherwise is one of the most annoying dogs I have ever been around. meanwhile my lab has never needed a licks worth of hunting training, lets kids lay on him and the kids fight over who gets him in their room at night.

look people have crap dogs and don't know no better, losa opsas, the numerous terrier breeds, [bleep], chiwawa's all their owners think they are the best dogs ever, but they suck.

I am sure they are out there, but I have yet to meet a doodle that was anything other than goofy and aloof, and I have met a lot. I am sure there are exceptions. I have yet to meet one that was a hunter. I am sure there are exceptions. CC didn't word it quite correctly, but dogs that come from a strictly hunting lineage can have a LOT of hunting drive and may in fact not make as good of a pet. I see this at the park in a few labs and GSPs. They don't spend any time socializing with people or dogs. They are constantly dropping balls at their owner's feet, demanding retrieves. Those are the exceptions. Talking to the owners, that's just the way the dogs are wired. Wherever they are they just want to work. It's also not uncommon for purely hunting dogs to be kept in kennels with very little human interaction until it's time to hunt. I see this with dogs that are used for rabbit hunting, coon hunting and deer hunting. Some duck hunters do this with their labs.

Yeah, but was he a Fast Food Pointer, like my Fred was? He pointed every such place we passed when traveling, and looked offended when we didn't stop.

Fred was supposed to be Choc Lab/ Chessie cross - all 35 lbs of him. I think there was a Springer in the woodpile there. We had a Cockatiel at the time, so he was taught to leave the bird alone when it was out of the cage. One dy when I opened the cage, Roxy flew out and landed on Fred's back. Freaked them both out!

So I took him grouse hunting one day. After a couple encouragements ( "Am I not to leave birds alone???? ) he went out to retrieve the bird. Lot's of hacking and coughing over the loose feathers in his mouth. The bird was a bit large for his mouth anyway.

He solved the problem by pushing the bird along the ground with his nose to me.

Now THAT is a great retriever! .

He didn't do road traffic well tho.

my problem with the strictly working dogs like the pointers, drawthars, etc. they make terrible family dogs. They are too ubber high strung on hunting only. If the dog doesn't make a good family dog I don't want them. but I do hunt them a few times a year so I need a hunting dog as well. having a lab is the perfect mix of that. doesn't hurt that my 9 year old lab is also a pointing lab, he holds on birds till you get a shot. a rare trait in a lab.

Trigger, he’s a Deutsch Drahthaar. In a nutshell he’s the original German wirehair pointer. When the Germans decided they needed a versatile hunting dog that could point, track, retrieve, blood trail feathered and furred game they crossed the Pudelpointer, Stickelhaar, Griffon and Kurzhaar to make what they figured what was the perfect hunting dog for their style. This breed was and is,maintained through a standard of ability testing, colors, size and genetic health issues. In the 1950’s someone decided they didn’t really want to go through the process of getting their dog certified to breed and got the AKC to recognize the German Wirehair as it’s own breed, with no regard to the standards of the DD. For example, the color of my dog is Braunschimmel (brown ticked) there is also Schwartzschimmel (black ticked)and Braun (brown solid). You won’t see a white DD which there are a bunch of white GWP’s. If you want to know the history check out the VDD-GNA or any reputable breeder and it can explain in more detail.