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I was at the gym today and got to thinking about the old "Pack Tests" (i.e. Work Capacity Tests) I used to do and/or administer. Very simple "Yes" or "No" Could you pass the basic (minimum) physical test to work "Wildland Fire"? Complete a 3-mile walk over level terrain in 45 minutes or less while carrying a 45-pound pack? https://www.nwcg.gov/term/glossary/work-capacity-test-wctRunning is NOT permitted. I answer Yes.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If ya wanna try it... 8 or9 ceramic tiles in a backpack will get ya to #45... typically.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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How much of the 45 lbs can be beer that you can drink on the way?
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Um yeah. That's a small training pack for rucking.
But the guys I know doing fire training are doing a lot more than that.
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I use to do it annually for the feds, think the fastest I ever did it was 32 minutes ( spent a month hunting barbery sheep in the Sacramento mnts in preparation)
I don't know I'd want to try it today.
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$20,500 in ones also gets you close to 45 pounds, for all you high rollers.
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Yes, 36.53 this year.
Smokejumper pack test? Hell no.
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If you are going to try it....take the pack test on gravel or dirt.
Much easier on your body than asphalt.
I used to get my red card pretty frequently.
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Um yeah. That's a small training pack for rucking.
But the guys I know doing fire training are doing a lot more than that. Of course... The test is kinda a minimum fitness level... time, weight, distance et al. I used to train on a treadmill at 10% grade with #60+. Point as we all get old and fat... who can still muster the minimum? This is NOT a "who is the baddest ass MoFo" post... Moreover... who keeps basic minimum fitness... kinda thing.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Yep passed it again last summer. Around 36 minutes I think and I was talking it easy.
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Yes, 36.53 this year.
Smokejumper pack test? Hell no. LOL... I hear ya. I never jumped, but did do some Hotshot stuff... MANY YEARS AGO!
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Yep passed it again last summer. Around 36 minutes I think and I was talking it easy. +1
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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I’m a volunteer and this past fall after my fitness test I thought that it may be my last one lol.
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Yes.
I could and DID pass it when I was younger and I could pass it now. Even after multiple surgeries and a lot of hard miles in between I could still do it. The difference is that back then I was just warming up but nowadays while I could pass the test I wouldn’t have as much left in the tank.
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I could do it, but my short legs would be spinning. A 30” inseam requires a fast pace to keep up with you long legged bastids.
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I was at the gym today and got to thinking about the old "Pack Tests" (i.e. Work Capacity Tests) I used to do and/or administer. Very simple "Yes" or "No" Could you pass the basic (minimum) physical test to work "Wildland Fire"? Complete a 3-mile walk over level terrain in 45 minutes or less while carrying a 45-pound pack? https://www.nwcg.gov/term/glossary/work-capacity-test-wctRunning is NOT permitted. I answer Yes. Left knee would really be pissed for a while but yes. Have in the past and could again if necessary.
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Yes.
I could and DID pass it when I was younger and I could pass it now. Even after multiple surgeries and a lot of hard miles in between I could still do it. The difference is that back then I was just warming up but nowadays while I could pass the test I wouldn’t have as much left in the tank.
Something about the old…..”I ain’t as good as I once was but I’m as good once as I ever was.” Rings more true everyday. Aint that the truth....first time I took the test when I was 18 it was EASY.....i honestly felt like I was purposely moving way slower than I could have and probably could have completed it a second time after finishing but last summer at age 42 while doing it I didnt really feel like I was pushing myself hard to do it in around 36 mins but damn sure knew it afterwards!!
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If you are going to try it....take the pack test on gravel or dirt.
Much easier on your body than asphalt.
I used to get my red card pretty frequently. Heck yeah, if I walk, run or jog on asphalt my knees and surgically repaired ankle hurt like hell but I can hike etc off road for much farther and over rougher terrain and not have the pain. Thankfully our pack test is on a flat gravel former railroad bed converted to a trail.
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