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For those that reload cast bullets in 44 magnum, do you crimp with the ring in the seater die at the same time you seat the bullet, or as a separate step? And if doing as a separate step, do you use the seater die with the seating plug backed off or use a dedicated crimping die?

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Separate step. Same die stem backed off.


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Originally Posted by 358WCF
Separate step. Same die stem backed off.
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Originally Posted by okie john
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Separate step. Same die stem backed off.
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Did it that way for years, but have a separate crimp die now. Both work.


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Originally Posted by tcp
For those that reload cast bullets in 44 magnum, do you crimp with the ring in the seater die at the same time you seat the bullet, or as a separate step? And if doing as a separate step, do you use the seater die with the seating plug backed off or use a dedicated crimping die?

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Back in the dark ages I used the RCBS seater die. Then Lee came out with the Factory Crimp Die, and I switched to that. Later Lee came up with the collet die and I've been using that.

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I seat and crimp in the same step. I keep my Hornady die set for 44 Mag cases and an RCBS setup for Specials. It probably helps that I use one bullet for 95 percent of my 44 loads and once I get the die set I lock it down and don’t monkey with it.

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Lee factory crimp die.....

Just as good as the Lee collet neck die for rifle cases


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I have done it both ways, currently seat and crimp in the same operation. I've been shooting the "Skeeter Skelton load" for the past 25 + years, a 200gr. RNFP bullet over 7.5gr. of Unique.

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I still do it either way.


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Originally Posted by gunswizard
I have done it both ways, currently seat and crimp in the same operation. I've been shooting the "Skeeter Skelton load" for the past 25 + years, a 200gr. RNFP bullet over 7.5gr. of Unique.

I believe Skeeter's load was 7.5 gr. Unique under a 250 gr. Keith. I used to shoot a lot of that one.

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You are correct about Skeeter's load, I wanted something with less recoil thus the switch to a 200gr. bullet.

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And it was in the 44 Special.


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Lee Crimping die.

Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down.


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I only load cast bullets in handgun cartridges, and I don't have any evidence that it really makes any difference in performance but I like to have a seating die set up just for seating the bullet and another one just to put on the crimp...roll for revolvers and taper for self loaders.


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Handgun or rifle cartridge, if I’m going to crimp the bullet, I do it in a separate step.


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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Lee Crimping die.

Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down.

This for all of my handgun rounds needing a roll crimp.


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There appear to be several different Lee crimping dies available on line. Can anyone provide a link to the best version appropriate for roll crimping.

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Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Lee Crimping die.

Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down.

I keep seeing this repeated on forums, but I've never experienced this myself. I use the Lee FCD and the Lee Collet for crimping 44mag and they absolutely DO NOT size the bullet.

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Originally Posted by tcp
There appear to be several different Lee crimping dies available on line. Can anyone provide a link to the best version appropriate for roll crimping.

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Follow this link (in my sig line) for info on crimping as I use both the FCD and the Lee Collet.

https://sites.google.com/site/hobbyhintstricksideas/home/crimping-44-magnum

I usually buy on Amazon unless one of the retailer has a better price.

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Lee Crimping die.

Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down.

I keep seeing this repeated on forums, but I've never experienced this myself. I use the Lee FCD and the Lee Collet for crimping 44mag and they absolutely DO NOT size the bullet.



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**A carbide sizer inside the Carbide Factory Crimp die post-sizes the cartridge while it is crimped so every round will positively chamber freely with factory like dependability. **


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