Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire The backlog on vehicles is insane

Building a Fab is expensive and a ton of red tape. Takes a while too.

Why the chips are made overseas....toxic processs

Couldn't find the Super Duty numbers, but total F series (150, 250, 350 combined) are in the ballpark of 800,000/year.

I would charge you extra if you brought me a bunch of nasty oysters.

Local Toyota dealer actually on the lot per their website as of right now (they list a whole bunch in-transit, these you could go buy today):

1 Camry
1 corolla
1 corolla hatchback
1 Hilander
1 Hilander Hybrid
2 Rav 4
1 Rav4 Hybrid
1 prius
1 Tundra

You're in construction - how long to put up a building of 700k square feet and install all the necessary pieces and components inside to make chips? Ok - now how long to get the environmental approvals for all the nasty raw products needed for that - on-site?

Glad I bought my 4Runner and paid it off when I did. 24K on it now.

Weirdest thing last week. Door lock actuator went bad on passenger side front. Hustled to get it fixed while still under warranty. Service writer told me it would have been ~ $500, otherwise. Sheesh..

My buddy ordered a new Bronco Sasquatch edition almost a year ago. No idea when it will arrive. This country is as F’d up as I’ve seen it in my 62 years.

Ron

Three problems with the chip thing:

1. Automakers do not use the latest technology when it comes to processing chips. They use what is known as legacy chips (low margin) that few manufacturers are willing to continue making.
2. Chip demand is exponentially higher as virtually everything made today has a chip in it somewhere. In addition, cars went from a handful of computers to virtually every system has multiple processors attached.
3. And finally, it takes billions and years to ramp up a new plant and who wants to spend that money on low margin processors?

So the chip shortage is real and will continue for potentially years to come.

I would solve the problem in the same way Trump would... Utilize an existing facility (US, Mexico, Canada et al) and gear up (refit/modify) the existing chip plant. Throw a chit ton of money at it and stuff would happen at the speed of light. Money is a phenomenal lubrication to most any problem. Cars, trucks, planes, trains, heavy equipment is Trillions of dollars of industry... sitting idle... begging China for chips. Bullchit on that.

Two slots of the 4 place toaster went tits up recently. What are we gunna do if we get company for breakfast, eat croissants or some schit??!

We really living on the edge out here.

I do NOT disagree with that summary (you or Teal).

Make the Chips a HIGH MARGIN item. If a chip for a $85,000 truck costs $100 to make (WAG)... throw $1k at it. Get the trucks sold.

ZERO logic in letting Billions in inventory just sit... when the fix is a 1% hit.

I bought a new Dodge 3/4 right before the virus hit. It’s an 18 with 20,000 miles. They try to buy it every time I take it to dealership for service. It has a lifetime power train warranty, so I have have dealership do the service.

Set up a GO FUND ME page... I'll be glad to help you!

It is crazy, ordered a 22 Tacoma off road back in jan. Only add on was led lights. Truck just got to Chicago on Wednesday. Dealership says still be 3-6 weeks before it arrives ready to purchase. Was told same truck now is 8-9 months out if “ordered” today.

Crazy times

Can they get the chips to run the machines to make more chips?

Within a year and a half of the start of WWII, we were making planes, ships, guns, tanks, you name it.

Two years plus since the start of Covid, and these mfgrs still haven’t come up with a way to make some relatively low-tech chips (vs. cutting edge stuff), or standardize their platforms to the point that they don’t need multiple varieties of chips. Everyone just keeps pointing at the other guy, hoping they’ll get caught up “eventually”...

Everything points to "The Great Reset".

When you can't make sense of things with your worldview, get a different one.

Why don't you catch a ride to Chicago and pick it up? They may be lying to you.

Took Jeep 12 weeks to deliver our new Cherokee. Ordered my 2022 Tundra hybrid last September and am still waiting, they are now saying summer delivery. I did receive a call from my salesman on a straight gas Tundra that someone ordered but failed to qualify for financing. My Toyota dealership had one new car in stock, they have taken to posting images of vehicles that they will be receiving with an expected delivery date and selling them before they arrive. FJB

I wonder what happened to the 30-40,000 trucks sitting in parking lots waiting on chips to be installed.
I managed to get a 7.3L Superduty that was built in December. Only lasted 2 day on the lot.