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Mr Too Dogs,

While I appreciate your nice comments on my writing, word-count cannot be "ignored" by any magazine writer these days--unless they want real trouble from the magazine's editor and owner. And in this instance the magazine's owner also happens to be Jeremiah's father.

Along with writing close to 3000 articles for various magazines over the decades, I have also spent several years as the head editor for three magazines. Had several writers try to whip out articles for all three, going long over my requested word-count--and justified it by suggesting that it was "the editor's job" to cut them down to size. I assured the first guy who tried this was NOT the editor's job, for a couple of reasons:

First, I'd written for several magazines by then, and found that the more finished my submissions were (including word-count) the more money I was paid. Second, a magazine editor's main job is to provide an array of articles in each issue, appealing to a variety of readers. This involves reading a LOT of submissions, which is far more important than editing some lazy writer's too-long article.

The guy who insisted it was my job to edit/cut down articles sent in 5000 words, which very few magazines published even back then--and I'd asked for 2000. It was actually relatively easy to cut it down to 2000, by eliminating entire pages that essentially repeated the same information as other pages. But it also took over an hour, which I could have used for reading at least 2-3 other submissions. That writer never got another assignment from me.


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I miss Scovill, probably learned something from damn near every column he wrote. That being said, I think Jeremiah's first effort was fine & I'm looking forward to seeing where he goes with it. As has been said already, new blood is good (and I was dreading Hoots taking it over - he's nearly as bad as Claire Rees...)

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Well if he’s gonna go over with me he needs to lose the cowboy hat while indoors. WTF?

Is that socially unacceptable where CB hats are common?
It's a manners thing (where manners are practiced) to remove one's hat when you enter a room. You'll see it without fail with military personnel and lots of old cowboys.

Exactly. Hats at a table are taboo and never a hat on the bed.

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Hats at the table= bad manners

Hats on the bed, makes me cringe, and that's= bad manners. Rio7

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Just once more to be clear, I wasn’t ragging on the man about his manners; it is after all a video set, not a home or public accommodation. I think it looks phony, and silly, and IMO it’s both unless that’s what he wears when he’s loading and the camera’s not running. In that case, it’s just “quirky” and we all have those; goodness knows I do……..

We also have to consider the possibility that it’s not his idea to wear it at all, but that of the production folks. I’m going with that.


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Originally Posted by chesterpulley
I miss Scovill, probably learned something from damn near every column he wrote. That being said, I think Jeremiah's first effort was fine & I'm looking forward to seeing where he goes with it. As has been said already, new blood is good (and I was dreading Hoots taking it over - he's nearly as bad as Claire Rees...)

That’s “high praise”!


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If some wants to wear a hat indoors, that's fine by me. Why that bothers anyone is beyond me

Because it's a sign of disrespect in another's house, and a sign of mental deficiency in your own?

What's a hat for, and do those conditions exist indoors?




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Guys I worked with had ball caps on all the time to cover the bald spot they were sensitive about displaying.

Whatever.


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Originally Posted by Garandimal
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If some wants to wear a hat indoors, that's fine by me. Why that bothers anyone is beyond me

Because it's a sign of disrespect in another's house, and a sign of mental deficiency in your own?

What's a hat for, and do those conditions exist indoors?




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A hat can be for looks and that goes in or out of doors. The so called disrespect is an old BS tradition that is often ignored today.



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Guys I worked with had ball caps on all the time to cover the bald spot they were sensitive about displaying.

That's a reason



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We were taught to take our shoes off in the house. I suppose that we could have declared anyone who didn't do so (at any place) as disrespectful if we chose to do so. It wouldn't matter that they intended no disrespect, but since it was a "rule" that we (well, really Momma) made up, we would have had the right to brand them as such.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
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If some wants to wear a hat indoors, that's fine by me. Why that bothers anyone is beyond me

Because it's a sign of disrespect in another's house, and a sign of mental deficiency in your own?

What's a hat for, and do those conditions exist indoors?




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A hat can be for looks and that goes in or out of doors. The so called disrespect is an old BS tradition that is often ignored today.

Fashion - applies to women.

That's why hats are acceptable for them to wear indoors.

... like makeup.




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Originally Posted by Garandimal
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Garandimal
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If some wants to wear a hat indoors, that's fine by me. Why that bothers anyone is beyond me

Because it's a sign of disrespect in another's house, and a sign of mental deficiency in your own?

What's a hat for, and do those conditions exist indoors?




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A hat can be for looks and that goes in or out of doors. The so called disrespect is an old BS tradition that is often ignored today.

Fashion - applies to women.

That's why hats are acceptable for them to wear indoors.

... like makeup.




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That's your opinion, never saw a Western where the cowboy all took there hat off insideca salone



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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Originally Posted by jwp475
If some wants to wear a hat indoors, that's fine by me. Why that bothers anyone is beyond me

Because it's a sign of disrespect in another's house, and a sign of mental deficiency in your own?

What's a hat for, and do those conditions exist indoors?




GR


A hat can be for looks and that goes in or out of doors. The so called disrespect is an old BS tradition that is often ignored today.

Fashion - applies to women.

That's why hats are acceptable for them to wear indoors.

... like makeup.




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That's your opinion, never saw a Western where the cowboy all took there hat off insideca salone

Musta been gay cowboys...

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I can't speak to the articles as I no longer subscribe to any print magazines.

But I have watched the Handloader TV series on YouTube, and I like this concept and format. I think Jeremiah does a pretty good job, although he could use some coaching on public speaking. This isn't to say I feel his presentation is bad or unwatchable, just that he's clearly very new to presenting to a camera, and it's pretty clear he's not yet comfortable in this presentation format.

As to the hat, it never even crossed my mind to have an opinion on his choice of headwear.

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Always thought traditions and beliefs should have a real reason to exist. I'm not much on doing schit because we always do it that way.

Lots of stupid traditions or rules out there like not putting a hat on a bed, that are just ridiculous and have no basis in fact.

Hell I even got in the shower with a ball cap on once. Wore it so much I forgot I had it on. Maybe we should make that a rule too?

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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Lots of stupid traditions or rules out there like not putting a hat on a bed, that are just ridiculous and have no basis in fact.

Was wearing a "cowboy" hat many years ago during a fly-fishing trip with several other writers, mostly because there was some chance of rain, and a wide-brimmed hat kept raindrops off my glasses. (Used to write about fishing a lot too, in fact one of my old books is all about the subject.)

When we got back to the lodge where we were staying, and I took my hat off and threw it on the bed. One of the other guys immediately almost shouted, "You never put a cowboy hat on a bed!" There may even been a comment about it being bad luck, but in any case I had NEVER heard that before, despite growing up in Montana, and working on more than one ranch. The other writer had grown up in upstate New York....


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It sounds like something that the Darling family on Andy Griffith would champion.


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Hell, I don't even move the dishes when I piss in the sink.

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Hell, I don't even move the dishes when I piss in the sink.

Lol thanks for the early morning wakeup still laughing. Don't feel bad if I never invite you over for a beer though ok?


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