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For those that reload cast bullets in 44 magnum, do you crimp with the ring in the seater die at the same time you seat the bullet, or as a separate step? And if doing as a separate step, do you use the seater die with the seating plug backed off or use a dedicated crimping die?
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Separate step. Same die stem backed off.
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Separate step. Same die stem backed off. This. Okie John
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Separate step. Same die stem backed off. This. Okie John Did it that way for years, but have a separate crimp die now. Both work.
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For those that reload cast bullets in 44 magnum, do you crimp with the ring in the seater die at the same time you seat the bullet, or as a separate step? And if doing as a separate step, do you use the seater die with the seating plug backed off or use a dedicated crimping die?
Thanks Back in the dark ages I used the RCBS seater die. Then Lee came out with the Factory Crimp Die, and I switched to that. Later Lee came up with the collet die and I've been using that.
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I seat and crimp in the same step. I keep my Hornady die set for 44 Mag cases and an RCBS setup for Specials. It probably helps that I use one bullet for 95 percent of my 44 loads and once I get the die set I lock it down and don’t monkey with it.
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Lee factory crimp die.....
Just as good as the Lee collet neck die for rifle cases
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I have done it both ways, currently seat and crimp in the same operation. I've been shooting the "Skeeter Skelton load" for the past 25 + years, a 200gr. RNFP bullet over 7.5gr. of Unique.
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I still do it either way.
I prefer classic.
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I have done it both ways, currently seat and crimp in the same operation. I've been shooting the "Skeeter Skelton load" for the past 25 + years, a 200gr. RNFP bullet over 7.5gr. of Unique. I believe Skeeter's load was 7.5 gr. Unique under a 250 gr. Keith. I used to shoot a lot of that one.
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You are correct about Skeeter's load, I wanted something with less recoil thus the switch to a 200gr. bullet.
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And it was in the 44 Special.
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Lee Crimping die.
Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down.
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I only load cast bullets in handgun cartridges, and I don't have any evidence that it really makes any difference in performance but I like to have a seating die set up just for seating the bullet and another one just to put on the crimp...roll for revolvers and taper for self loaders.
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Handgun or rifle cartridge, if I’m going to crimp the bullet, I do it in a separate step.
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Lee Crimping die.
Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down. This for all of my handgun rounds needing a roll crimp.
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There appear to be several different Lee crimping dies available on line. Can anyone provide a link to the best version appropriate for roll crimping.
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Lee Crimping die.
Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down. I keep seeing this repeated on forums, but I've never experienced this myself. I use the Lee FCD and the Lee Collet for crimping 44mag and they absolutely DO NOT size the bullet.
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There appear to be several different Lee crimping dies available on line. Can anyone provide a link to the best version appropriate for roll crimping.
Thanks Follow this link (in my sig line) for info on crimping as I use both the FCD and the Lee Collet. https://sites.google.com/site/hobbyhintstricksideas/home/crimping-44-magnumI usually buy on Amazon unless one of the retailer has a better price.
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Lee Crimping die.
Remove the carbide ring when desiring bullets to stay at .430,.431, etc. or you'll resize back down. I keep seeing this repeated on forums, but I've never experienced this myself. I use the Lee FCD and the Lee Collet for crimping 44mag and they absolutely DO NOT size the bullet. **A carbide sizer inside the Carbide Factory Crimp die post-sizes the cartridge while it is crimped so every round will positively chamber freely with factory like dependability. **
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