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I have an old Balvar 8A scope. It came on a rifle with a very cumbersome base for adjusting it. Is there a modern base that would work with this without too much frustration? Guess these were pre internal adjustments. Thanks for any help or thoughts.

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I have one on a Savage 22-250, I put it on to see if it was competitive with modern scopes. I made it to the finally round of the Masters class at the PM Egg Shoot, so yes it is still a great scope. I have it in a Leupold windage adjustable scope and shim for elevation, you can see a piece of greased paper under the scope on the rear ring. We stopped on the way back from the shoot to kill a coyote with our competition rifles This is pretty much a set and forget set up but the rifle is flat shooting enough to hold on fur to 300 yards.


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Find an old Buehler Micro-Dial.

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What kind of bases is your Balvar 8A installed in?


There were four reasonably common externally adjustable makes; B&L's own, later made/sold under the Kuharsky Brothers name, Buehler Micro-Dial, Leupold Adjusto-Mounts, and Stith Master-Mount.

About 30 years ago I went through an externally adjusted scope phase and found that while the B&L bases are a PITA to dial in, once you get them dialed in and locked down, they stay that way. That said, I prefer aesthetics of the Buehler Micro-Dial base, but the windage adjustments aren't any finer than the B&Ls. I don't care for the Leupold or Stith styles.

B&L advertised their externally adjustable scopes with the concept that you could buy one scope and swap it between any number of other rifles that were equiped with inexpensive B&L bases. The biggest negative that I have found is that the tapered crosshair reticle is so fine that it disappears in low light conditions.

PS - If you go with the Buehler Micro-Dial, ask the seller if he/she has the hooked shaped wrench that is used to adjust the elevation dial.

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Thanks y’all. The current base is the B&L. The Buehler looks like it might work better for me. I appreciate the help!

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Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Find an old Buehler Micro-Dial.
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I have 1 or 2 adjustable base systms one of them is a bueler. I think one was on a mauser 98 and the other was on a magnum mark 5 weatherby action. What gun are you putting this on?

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I got the Balvar on a savage 340. It has a kuhlarsky base. I swapped it out with a bsquare mount and scope that I was going to use for predator hunting. The gun felt top heavy with the kuhlarsky base.
I really like the tapered reticle of the balvar but not the base.

Debating what to do with it now. I have a Remington.222 that I could put it on. But need a base. Or put it back on the savage and set something else up for night hunting.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

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Sell the Balvar and buy a modern scope so you don't have to agonize over the mounting system. Otherwise, use the Kuharsky or find a one-piece base and shim it for elevation (for the 340). Buehler didn't make the Micro-Dial for the 340 or for any short action rifle so you're probably going to be sol there.

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