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The red dot site is good if you live and carry and shoot in a clean environment, but if you work or live in a dusty environment, they are not wonderful, makes no differents what you use, if you know how to use it, if you don't know how it makes a differents. Rio7 Brilliant.
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If I was buying a new XDm/G20 to hunt with, I might give a dot a tryout.
As it stands I hunt with more traditional stuff and I'm not hanging scopes/dots on them.
The guns I normally carry, an old J frame and an XD45 SC, get shot frequently. I'm comfortable with what I can do with them and fast or deliberate, they're just about autopilot.
Sooner or later one of the friends & family who shoot here will drag a dot-sighted pistol along and I'll give it a try. Can’t wait to hear what you discover after shooting cans with somebody else’s handgun that you’ve already determined you don’t need.
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The red dot site is good if you live and carry and shoot in a clean environment, but if you work or live in a dusty environment, they are not wonderful, makes no differents what you use, if you know how to use it, if you don't know how it makes a differents. Rio7 Uh Rio, we have been successfully warring w/ illum type optics for 20+ years in dusty environments. "flaves epistle to the serious shooters nailed it, even though written by a dog pecker gnat. Learning new schidt will get ya killed on the street mike r Rio is every bit as bright as he seems.
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lvmiker, I'm not at war with anyone, what you say is true,they are not for me and i have tried them, my point is whatever works for you. the dog pecker CATFISH, is good at repeating what he has GOOGLED. he's never been close to a gun fight in his life. Rio7 LOL You haven’t tried schit you tired old fugk. Go water your cows.
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Come on CATFISH tell us a war story, you can be the hero it's ok. Rio7
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Come on CATFISH tell us a war story, you can be the hero it's ok. Rio7 Ladies first. I insist.
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The red dot site is good if you live and carry and shoot in a clean environment, but if you work or live in a dusty environment, they are not wonderful, makes no differents what you use, if you know how to use it, if you don't know how it makes a differents. Rio7 Brilliant. I raise registered quartieri horses and cattedrale, nothing is dustier than grain dust. I wear my carry pistol Daily with RDS. When the glass get covered with dust I simply below it off. I can use the sight with out blowing the d'uso off if need be
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jwp475, what ever works for you is fine with me, I have more than my share of horses and cattle, and dust and they don't work for me. Rio7
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jwp475, what ever works for you is fine with me, I have more than my share of horses and cattle, and dust and they don't work for me. Rio7 Which optic, pistol, and holster failed to work for you?
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Walls don't work and 20 years of red dots fighting in the desert didn't occur. Kinda makes me believe Rio7s input is invalid. Because he's a retard.
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jwp475, what ever works for you is fine with me, I have more than my share of horses and cattle, and dust and they don't work for me. Rio7 Which optic, pistol, and holster failed to work for you? Whatever Deflave says works failed in Rios imagination.
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No none I was in Iraq with had red dot optic on their pistol. Including the high-speed ODA guys.
The high-speed guys may run red dots now, but I suspect they’re all the higher end RMRs and Aimpoints.
Red dots on rifles are different and were prolific.
I had the problem Rio refers to at a training with Thunder Ranch near Las Vegas. Using a Holosun on my 365XL, dirt and crap got on the ocular side of the site and it was near useless.
20,000 rounds or so with my M4 and a red dot, and I don’t recall that ever happening. In Iraq, in training, or in the dust bowl called Eastern Washington.
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20,000 rounds or so with my M4 and a red dot, and I don’t recall that ever happening. In Iraq, in training, or in the dust bowl called Eastern Washington. Which red dot did you run 20,000 with?
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Mostly the issued Aimpoint, or the same optic on my personal rifle. Although I’ve used and use now a Trijicon MRO on my truck gun. https://www.trijicon.com/products/product-family/trijicon-mro-red-dotWhy does that matter? I shoot around 2,000 rounds of 223/5.56 a year, and have done so since I was around 26? I’m 63 now, so the all up number is closer to 75K lifetime through some M4-ish rifle, mostly with red dots.
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I was just curious.
When did this become the insecure forum?
Jesus Christ.
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jwp475, what ever works for you is fine with me, I have more than my share of horses and cattle, and dust and they don't work for me. Rio7 Which optic, pistol, and holster failed to work for you? I find that hard to believe if he had a decent optic. I'm running a Holosun 507K and a 507C and dust isn't going to stop you from using them
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There are a whole new set of verified issues that come with an open emitter red dot. That’s why I want an ACRO P2 if I venture down that road again on a carry gun.
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I have never had a problem with a Aim Point, on my ARs, but i now use a 2 x 7 Lupy fire dot. helps these old eyes see a little better. had a big visit with the 2 top active duty Seal hand gun trainers, we talked about optics on a hand gun, they both said if your a paper puncher, they are great, but they didn't want them on their carry gun, one carried a Glock the other carried a Sig. then they both told me i was "OLD SCHOOL" with my 1911, but they both had a great time shooting my .45s with McKay Sagebrush ammo. I use what works for me, and what ever you chose for your use is up to you. Rio7
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I have never had a problem with a Aim Point, on my ARs, but i now use a 2 x 7 Lupy fire dot. helps these old eyes see a little better. had a big visit with the 2 top active duty Seal hand gun trainers, we talked about optics on a hand gun, they both said if your a paper puncher, they are great, but they didn't want them on their carry gun, one carried a Glock the other carried a Sig. then they both told me i was "OLD SCHOOL" with my 1911, but they both had a great time shooting my .45s with McKay Sagebrush ammo. I use what works for me, and what ever you chose for your use is up to you. Rio7 That's fantastic.
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Guru on the Mountaintop,😁
Deflave, very limited dot time on others guns. Don't like them, but recognize the craftsman isn't able to utilize the tool. Not that the tool is bad.
Was thinking of trying an iron/dot setup to help find the dam thing.
Now, you got me thinking of just trying a dot on a 22 to get used to them.
If teaching a new handgunner, and wanting them to learn how to use most anything, Dot or irons first.
I put a dot on the girls 22 rifle and they didn't like it at all. They ask for the scope back. And that was for 50yd and under plinking.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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