Home Forums Lever Action Central Lever Actions - General Any love for Miroku-made Winchester lever guns?

Same here. But they still don't inspire confidence in me 😄

I I’m sending my other 45-70 in for some work, so I might get the Miroku out shooting. My oldest son has his eyes on it. I image I’ll be giving it to him, but not until my gunsmith is through with my other 45-70.

Remember having a conversation with our Browning rep about the B92s around 1984 or 85. Told him that we would not be able to keep them in stock if they also had offered them in the traditional cartridges like .44 WCF, .32 WCF, etc. etc.

He acted like he’d been gutshot. Then he said some smart-azz comment that apparently I knew more than their marketing people.

10Glocks said somethings about where to mount a crescent butt plate on your shoulder! Do not mount on the shoulder!

Without further explanation, I will try to clarify that.
You do NOT mount the crescent on your shoulder. You can mount it one of two ways.
1. Upper part on biceps and lower tip in arm pit.
2. Lower tip in arm pit and upper tip in cup between shoulder arm joint and chest.

It took only one 45-90 shot to tell me that it was wrong (and possibly painful) to mount the butt plate on the shoulder.

Since learning to mount it correctly, no pain!

Feel pretty fortunate to have had the success I have had. Hard to believe a thing could be killed with a rebounding hammer, a safety, and a fuggin crescent butt plate. 😂🤣😂

I am sooo butt hurt!

Pick on Winchester.browning , miruko etc etc.


BUT LEAVE MARLINS OUTTA THIS PLEASE! I

What I was getting at is that you don't mount a crescent on your shoulder like a flat butt - like on the outer portion of your pec near your collar bone. You mount it on your shoulder further out so the bottom portion of the crescent goes under your armpit. The top of the crescent will be pointed at the rotator cuff. All that area is still shoulder.

And really, all you have to do it shoulder the rifle to realize you shouldn't mount a crescent like a flat butt. You don't need to fire it to learn that. Feeling the bottom point of the crescent jabbing into your pectoralis should immediately tell you is unwise to fire when the rifle is mounted that way.

I love Marlins, too. I've owned quite a few over the years. This is my great grandfather's 1893 take down made in 1901. It's in .30-30. He used to shoot turkeys with it in Pennsylvania. It was handed down to my grandfather who killed deer with it in Pennsylvania. It skipped my dad then came to me when my grandfather died. I've killed one deer with it. I shoot it only very occassionally. The flat part of the tip of the ejector is broken off, but it still ejects fine. It will go to my son one day.

Also in the picture is a whistle he made out of the tip of a deer antler. Its the loudest, smoothest sounding whistle I ever heard. And the other thing is a ancient silver plated commemorative .30-30 shell marked:

WINCHESTER REP. ARMS CO.
PATENTED AUG. 22, 1899
.30 CALIBER WINCHESTER
USE 32 S&W SMOKELESS






The first gun I ever bought for myself, and the first centerfire rifle I ever owned, was a Marlin 336 I bought in 1986. Up until then, I had only hunted deer with shotguns. I bought it at BEST department store, along with a couple boxes of ammo. The same day I took it to the a range and sigted it in. That fall I took it out and killed, up until then, my biggest buck on my first hunt with that rifle.

To be fair, my 1989 Winchester 94, made in CT, has a rebounding hammer too.

Thanks for trying to enlighten the masses, I'm not sure what we'd do without you.

Per Region6,
"Hard to believe a thing could be killed with a rebounding hammer, a safety, and a fuggin crescent butt plate. 😂🤣😂"

+1

More like a miracle that my 1886 TD .45-90 with all the above mentioned features could kill an Elephant, many cape Buff, leopard , etc, But it did + much more.

I bought my 1886 for hunting and not for a fashion show. And hunt it does.
Amazing how rarely other hunters ask about such minute details. Methinks they do not know or care about such trivia.

It seems that some people like certain things, while other people don’t like certain things. Further the people that like things are mad at the people that don’t like things because they like things.

Then he said some smart-azz comment that apparently I knew more than their marketing people.

Apparently he did know more about the lever gun market than their marketing people.

No problem- there ae other lever gun makers willing to supply hunters and shooters.

And again the 'fire goes... Shrapnel was writing to the quality of the various builds, nothing more.

Shrapnel knows his stuff. He's worth reading and listening to. I had a chance to actually talk to him and we were able to discuss things and I understand his observations now.

Shrap is a sharp cookie! 😉. Im honored to be able to call him a friend!

Love all of mine. I have three 1895, one a TR African Safari, the other a "Plain Jane" model both 405 WCFs, a vintage 1916 in 303 Brit and a gorgeous 1886 in 45-90

The Miroku-made Winchester lever guns I own now are the nicest lever guns I've ever owned. If the Miroku-made Browning reproductions were even better than these as Shrapnel attests, they must have been spectacular, indeed.

A couple years ago I picked up a supposedly unfired Miroku Winchester Mod. 71 Deluxe. It is the nicest blue steel walnut rifle I have ever owned. Dark well checkered walnut and a deep almost black blue finish.

In keeping with my plan to have a .35 caliber old school lever gun with near .35 Whelen ballistics I had it rechambered to a .348 Ackley Improved. Laid in a healthy supply of 250 grain bonded Alaska Bullet Works bullets, H4350 and Federal 215 Match Primers and Starline brass. Hoping to get 2,500fps mv out of my load choice.

I sent three fired cases off and had Whidden make up .348 Ack. Imp. dies and got a Lee Factory Crimp Die.

I doubt any moose or bear I shoot with it will appreciate all the expense and trouble I went to.

Got rid of rebounding hammer, trigger job, cut barrel to 22", full length magazine tube and XS receiver sight and Pachmayer Sporting Clays recoil pad. Had Levergun Leather Works make me up a five round butt cuff with a brown bear carves on the cheek side and a one inch black sling from Montana Leather Slings.

Wife made me a smoke tanned moose hide scabbard for it and when I put my Filson Packer hat on and hold that rifle while sitting around the fire pit in the back yard, I look like a real old Alaskan Sourdough! It is a well made, well fit and well put together rifle. Just purdy to look at!

I am pleased with it, but really don't need it, as it won't do any thing my wonderful Marlin 45-70 won't do.

I own a Browning M71 Carbine and a Browning M53 and both are beautifully fit and finished. They shoot well too. This is my 71's maiden voyage with a red dot. Yeah, I know...